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• #49377
No memory of the Three (Tory) Stooges?
Hague/IDS/Howard? -
• #49378
Where are we with this bet!?
Edit; I've got an S5 to fund apparently
As has been pointed out, I don't drink beer (that contains alcohol, I'm happily drinking a 0.0% one as I type this), but I do drink a lot of coffee.
How about a bag of decent coffee on a November election - me for, you against.
And I'll stand you a cup of coffee if May makes it through to the weekend/vice versa?
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• #49379
If May stays then we get the hardest of hard Brexits, i.e. no deal at all, cliff-edge exit.
So she's a goner, it's just a question of when - and then we get a Corbyn government I suspect.
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• #49380
Perfect
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• #49381
I think it's more a function of every recent terrorist attack being in some way linkable to ISIS, rather than them actually carrying them all out. They just claim everything as their work and people are willing to believe it.
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• #49382
Read the thread?
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• #49383
If May stays then we get the hardest of hard Brexits, i.e. no deal at all, cliff-edge exit.
I don't think May is a no kind of deal gal.
Or are you thinking she's lubing Fox, Davis and BoJo up to take the full force of the failure?
I'm hoping for Hammond. 1) bc I have £s on it, and 2) because he might limit the catastrophe of Brexit for a while.
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• #49384
"Male humans swim in worlds of status like trout swim in complex currents of water. Anyone who is not aware of this (or in denial about it) finds things like the high rates of male suicide or the fact that males are massively over-represented in apparently senseless crimes, utterly baffling. (2) Glib talk of “toxic masculinity” barely scratches the surface of what is going on. (3) “Toxic” does not explain the half of it, and it is worth noting that even the most toxic of masculinity does not put off all possible sexual partners. As Ogas and Gaddam (2012) note “It turns out that killing people is an effective way to elicit the attention of many women: virtually every serial killer, including Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, and David Berkowitz, has received love letters from large numbers of female fans”"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/hive-mind/201710/mass-killings-evolutionary-perspective
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• #49385
What the hell's going on in West Virginia?
Ah, only became a constitutional carry state in May 2016. They'll catch up :/
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• #49386
I don't think May is a no kind of deal gal.
Or are you thinking she's lubing Fox, Davis and BoJo up to take the full force of the failure?
I'm hoping for Hammond. 1) bc I have £s on it, and 2) because he might limit the catastrophe of Brexit for a while.
To get a deal she must make three parties happy:
- The EU negotiating team
- The Irish
- The DUP, and her own party
What does this mean? It means that we either commit to (in all but name) staying in the EU, or we have a hard border between the UK and the EU - which is either going to go between NI and I, or a theoretical line drawn along the middle of the Irish Sea.
May has ruled out the option of staying in the EU - customs union, FoM, ECJ, all gone - so we now have two options:
- Hard land border between Northern Ireland and Ireland
- Hard sea border between the Island of Ireland and the rest of the UK
And she has to get both the DUP and the Irish to agree to it.
Which one of those two options will May be able to get both the DUP and the Irish government to agree to back?
- The EU negotiating team
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• #49387
NRA is blaming the Obama administration for the existence of bump-stocks.
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• #49388
I admit that I am making a guess here but I suspect that Obama opposed the bump stock legislation but republicans ushered it through the house.
What planet are they on?
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• #49389
^^^Problem is that the second they trigger a leadership contest they usher Corbyn in, so they won't do that. so they'll stay with May until we're ejected from the EU. Is one option, anyway.
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• #49390
You giving too much credit, they'll try and do nothing. My thinking at the moment is that there will be a transition process to buy time.
The aim will be to frame this as having our cake and eating it - "we are definitely leaving and when we do we will have everything, but there is a lot to do... Etc..."
If possible as the process continues the aim will be to out maneuver the Brexshitstirrers and use them as fall guys.
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• #49391
They can't get to a transition discussion until they solve the Irish border- been Barniers position since before day 1.
No Irish border agreement - no deal at all.
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• #49392
It's the sufficient progress trap- if sufficient progress is not made on bill/citizens/Irish then we never move into the next phase.
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• #49393
NRA looking to deflect further action by suggesting controls for rapid fire mods. They're a bit worried about this.
Fuck em. Cunts.
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• #49394
I seem to remember the pre-Referendum, (but brexit) NI Secretary Teresa Villiers,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Villiers
several times refused to answer the vexed question of the status of the NI/Eire border if the UK were to leave the EU. She seemed to think that there was nothing to be discussed.
One would have thought that with 40 years to work out the details of leaving the brexitters would have ready answers for such matters.
Of course Villiers is an ex-MEP, and represented a Westminster constituency that along with NI voted to remain.
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• #49396
Well. You can't say we weren't warned.
It all very Lost Keys (Blame Hoffmann) / Rosetta Stoned
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• #49397
Would an option be to have the hard border on goods on land and the hard border on people in the sea?
You’d need some kind of personal or local business allowance but it would still prevent large scale smuggling etc.Edit: or you know, just cancel Brexit and stop being bellends.
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• #49398
I seem to remember the pre-Referendum, (but brexit) NI Secretary Teresa Villiers,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Theresa_Villiers
several times refused to answer the vexed question of the status of the NI/Eire border if the UK were to leave the EU. She seemed to think that there was nothing to be discussed.Well, she was right - there is nothing to be discussed, as there is no answer for it other than stay in the EU. That's literally it, as far as answers go (or EU in all but name).
It's what Frances Coppola refers to as the Greek Trap - the EU states when we've made enough progress, we have zero say, and to make sufficient progress we must first solve the Irish border problem.
I suspect that is why Moody's, in their credit downgrade of the UK, stated that they felt we would not get a deal.
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• #49399
best punchline ever.
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• #49400
https://thebritishdrea.com
Type a phrase and watch it fall off a wall behind Theresa May.
Where are we with this bet!?
Edit; I've got an S5 to fund apparently