• As has been said, XTR (or XT) rear mech won't play with a road front, my setup is simply plug and play.

    I've got a long cage Ultegra rear mech on the Time Machine with 53/39 to 11-32, but I don't think it's actually needed as The Mrs is happily running a short cage on the same block with a 34t inner with zero issues.

    That doesn't answer your question I'm afraid - I've not played with the new stuff, although my new bike is tempting me to throw the newer levers on as the reach on the R785's is on the epic side.

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