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Thank you for the offer richardshill :) i shall decline, but thank you.
In no rush and trying to fit a front mudguard at the moment...... if this dosen't work i shall need more p-clips.
Need a new chain ring so some extra small parts from SJS to look at, they do p-clips. Kinda thought it would be super easy to pick up locally but can only find plastic or out size ones.
Damn surly for no guard/rack mountings :)