Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

It isn't. If you don't have EasyFit, water would be a better substitute than washing up liquid

inner tube trick worked for me.

spent hours messing about prior to trying that. then did the whole thing in about 10 minutes with a track pump, using inner tube first method.

Schwalbe invented the Marathon Plus. Then they had to create that thing to help us mere mortals getting it on a rim.

Over there on the regular tyres thread, we've been having some lol bantz about my adventures in tubeless.

I am left with a question, though. In fact two:

how common is it for sealant to jet out of a puncture hole like a fountain? With road tyre pressure, I'm guessing this may be fairly common.

Is there some kind of technique for getting a puncture to seal? The hole wasn't that big but it seemed that the tyre flexing under load made it unseal.

I'm in two minds as to whether to repair the hole and go back to tubeless, or just keep the inner tube in.

It should fizz and bubble a bit then seal.

The fizz and bubble bit was happening.

It would seem to be good, I'd start riding again and then in a few minutes, the sound of air escaping would resume.

Could be worth shoving some glitter or other coagulant in there, or using a slightly thicker sealant like Orange Seal.

If the cut's too big it can't really clog properly, I rode over something sharp on my commutomtb the other day and it just spurted everywhere, but it was a good 1/2cm slice. Just about sealed at 10psi, but wouldn't hold when I pumped it up.

Gonna buy some dynaplugs/other tyre anchovies I think.

This is when the tubeless worms can be useful. It sounds like too big a gash to seal.

Or when you stop make sure the hole is at the bottom so the puddle of sealant stops air blasting out. Then the sealant has some time to set. I have deployed this technique a couple of times.

The saga of my tubeless tyre woes has evolved. Took it to Stayer cycles in leytonstone (great bunch of guys/girls btw) and they couldn't do it themselves either. 2 new layers of rim tape and a valve later and it's working.

EXCEPT. This morning I started my commute over East London's glass paved roads and got a small 4mm nick which wouldn't seal. A limp home and a swap of bikes saw me get into work. I really don't want to have to unseat it to patch the tyre again...I bought the weldtite anchovies but they are huge and seem more suited to MTB tyres where the lump you get from the anchovy is offset by the tread. Not really suited to a road tyre. Do people rate the genuine innovations ones? They seem a bit more slimline.

You could try and slice the anchovies in half. Seems to be what lots recommend.

Good point. I've been left with a lump from previous plugs. Which is definitely noticeable when riding. Is that just something you have to deal with?

All fixed using a patch in the end as when I put the anchovy in, removing the tool just pulls it right back out again. Aaaaand the tyre seated only after 3 attempts! Huzzah.

Shame it popped off again a few hours later. Assume I need to rotate the wheels to let the sealant seal it properly.

So I just dipped into this thread, thinking of trying some of this shit out.

Fuck it's complicated! Tape, sealants, boiling water, gorillas, anchovies, washing up liquid, inner tube tricks (some kind of sex play presumably) it all sounds like such a fag. Is it really worth it for road-touring sized tyres? I mean, can you really tell the difference?

Yes

I mean, can you really tell the difference?

no

plug that hole with a worm. I use the genuine innovations patch and smear it with flexible superglue. I would carry that stuff with you when you ride.

yes in every way. It is not complicated it is just totatally different to tubes. I have written a guide and put it on my website. I use tubeless every day and no drama's.

There are new IRC tyres comming out. They will be shown at euro bike. I hope a 650B tyre will be one the menu. A new Roadlite X-guard is and supply of these should be better as these will be made in China not Japan where production seems to be more limited. I hope to have good news on tyres next week.

What size will the IRC 650b road tyre be?

OK thanks dj. Will read your guide @cycleclinic, thanks. So an idiots' guide please... I'm going to write what I gathered in 10mins here:

Schwalbe Ones? Any other rec's for 700x28 tyres? Gorilla Tape 25mm, wound twice. Inflate tyre using inner tube to seat tape. Wait? Remove tube. Seat tyre bead carefully near valves. Sealant in. How? Inflate. Use a bit of wet stuff around the bead when inflating to check leaky edges. Shake the tyres? Eat some anchovies, cut in two. Leave tyres for a day. Pray. Check pressure.

What did I miss? Something about worms.

Either put sealant in the tyre before you mount it, or remove the valve core and inject it in after you have installed the tyre dry.

^cool

Don't leave the tyres for a day just get out and ride 'em. Gorilla tape doesn't need to be seated with a tube - the air pressure when the tubeless tyre goes up will do that anyway.

Thanks @Howard.

But anchovies! I need to know about them. Salted or marinated?

Also put the jizz in after the tyre has gone up dry as DJ suggests - it's much cleaner.