Motorcycle and Scooter appreciation

City mostly AFAIK. None out of the city really.

Glasgow bike theft is on the increase too, same police force so again they will not intervene. There is a reason there are stanley blades taped to parts of my bike*

*DNA evidence can live on the ground outside long enough to be useful.

Pretty horrible development in bike theft. Interesting point BQ raises. In a long story 10 years ago myself and a neighbour cleaned our street of thieving s**ts through a combination of threats with chains/axes and bs regarding how mental we used to be. I was characterised as the ex-hells angel who'd done time for hacking his best mates arm off with a chisel (fits the carpenter background!). He was the paranoid PCP addict with a machete watching from behind the curtains. It took years but eventually the street became a no go area for scum. Lots of stories along the way.

Long story short, it's easier to sort out your own ends, get friendly with your local non-scum bikers and look out for each other. Too many people riding bikes have forgotten the community side of it. Saw a programme the other night about the met chasing phone thieves on stolen scooters and I'm literally cheering at the footage of them getting knocked off at a junction. Not very PC I know. :)

I'm getting a f-ing extending cosh to sit under the seat

Would it be possible for someone to develop, if it hasn't already been done, a phone app which connects to your bike wirelessly, through obviously something wired into the bikes circuits. Whereby if you are knocked off and/or robbed of your bike, you can get your phone out and hit a kill switch? Shut the bike down remotely so it probably gets abandoned down the road and you can retrieve it?

good idea!

and a fuck off cosh

Google tells me this is a big stick. Under your seats not much good when you're boxed in and robbed in ten seconds though is it?

gaffa taped somewhere discreet maybe

or this stuff

https://www.amazon.co.uk/defence-spray-genuine-Protec-pouch/dp/B00AZXPGHO

An old school mate is currently working on a project like this.

When the riders phone loses signal to the bike it cuts the fuel supply. I obviously wont go into to much detail about it, as he'd like it to stay hush hush for now.

Major issue is signal loss, especially out in the countryside and the city.

Something like bluetooth could work. It should maintain a strong signal but only for about 10-15 meters outdoors. Depends if you want to be that close to a disgruntled group of thieves when the bike stops working.

Treadmills have a clip with a bit of string attached. If you fall off the back it pulls the string and the machine stops instantly. Even something as simple as that could work. If you get pushed off your bike, it shuts down and the key won't start it again. Thieves are likely to bail if they can't get off on it quickly

He's tried B.Tooth and it worked well. Under perfect conditions 4G phone signal has performed better and hopes to continue with his findings.

Kill switch on MX bikes and snowmobiles work perfectly fine. Sadly extremely well prep'd thugs have made copper connectors to re-connect where the missing connection would be

Treadmills have a clip with a bit of string attached.

So do jetskis, a dead man's handle, I think.

@reeen has a keyless ignition or something similar. hopefully he can give some more info

I know new trumpets and beemers have a proximity key, it needs to be fairly close to start, but not sure if it has a killswitch after distance from key. Id hope so, would want to fire it up in the garage, get to work and realise I no longer have means to start it again

http://www.mpsracing.com/products/MPS/hc01.asp

Thats one option but doesnt cover all bikes, seeing as most of these are designed for kill switching when crashing during racing it might not be great for normal road use as its handlebar mounted and very visible. I would want one attached to the battery directly as thats underneath fairing and painful to get to on my bike.

The problem is it wouldn't stop many thefts.
These scooter-riding scumbags either bike-jack you and your key, or they just steal it when parked, and push it along the road with their scooters. They don't really care if the engine won't run.

http://www.pingelonline.com/safety-kill-switches/610-panel-mount-safety-kill-switch-normally-closed-circuit.asp

or theres this which can mount to a panel.

yeah thats a good point. time to get a trailer with 2 german shepherds in.

bike-jack you and your key

This is why the proximity thing would work or phone app with tracker. They ride off, you kill it and then find them/the bike. They won't as happily push it down the road if its on a high street in broad daylight so would help you about town I'd have thought

unfortunately there have been quite a few videos of them doing exactly that. using one scooter as power with its riders leg extended pushing from behind. after stealing the bike from locked. most of those videos I have seen are in central london. a few of them further up this thread.

what would be good is a wheel locker that can be remotely triggered. if the wheels can turn then the bike can be pushed away using the scooter power

That could endanger the life of the scumbag and would probably get you in trouble. I don't know this to be true in theory but I could imagine it playing out like that.

yeah you're probably correct. I am definitely at least considering some sort of tracker at least.

along the security vein, I have always used a hefty padlock and chain when out and about. obviously if thieves get through that then the bike can be wheeled away, so I am in the market for at least one, probably 2, disc locks as extra deterrent. any recommendations?