Tubeless Tyres -"saying the same things about tubeless tyres over and over again" Hippy read the first f**king post

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Anyone tried the G+ Speed?
Sounds like this group is pretty pro Schwalbe Pro One, but I do like the look of the Vittoria more and they're a claimed near 100g lighter for the pair!

Too delicate for general road use. Stupidly fast though.

Sounds like the exact impracticality I'm looking for!

I've only heard bad stuff about vittorias tubeless tyres

when i bought my on-one (prev 29er) it came with tubeless but i was put off after a sidewall rip and goo everywhere, so went back to tubes

got some new wheels for my felt and went tubeless. no idea why I hadn't stuck with it, was completely painless to install these tyres then add the sealant. inflated with a normal track pump. transformed the ride

tempted to go for it on my road bike too now (my rims are compatible). just think the higher pressures required might be a different kettle of fish

I'm (well, was- not weighed myself for a while now) 82kg and running 65 rear 55 front, 28 Schwalbe Pro One's. high pressure is simply not required.

add some glitter, your sidewall punctures will fix them selfs easier

Or pack that rubberized superglue DJ mentioned a few pages back.

For those of us too lazy to search, anyone got a link?

scientifically that makes sense.. do people do that? sounds like a mess to clean up. I think I was just unlucky and old tyres were a bit fragile

high pressure is simply not required.

4 bar is high pressure if you're used to running 1.5 on your MTB 😀

@dancing james knows. Might be this stuff

Yep it was that one but gorilla also make a rubberised superglue too

scientifically that makes sense.. do people do that?

They do... it gums up your valves and I dunno what happens if you dump a load of it on the forest floor, but I've heard it helps seal bigger holes. That said, glue and plugs can do the same thing.

Do any of the irc formula tires come in 28mm+?

Think it was the "Power Flex" stuff. I've just got some of the Weldtite Anchovies for bigger punctures that sealant alone can't plug, but I'd guess it's not good for sidewall rips.

I've been using Stan's sealant after a brief period experimenting with cheaper solutions from Planet X, which didn't really work. Big bargains on 29" and 27.5" WTB rims at the moment might be of interest to some here, £7.99! Used the narrower version on my cross bike and they seem reasonably solid at a reasonable weight for a very reasonable price.

As I understand it most tubeless tyres have slightly thicker sidewalls than their tubed counterparts, so if the side wall has ripped significantly on a tubeless tyre it would have been fatal to a tubed tyre too.

Yeah, I glitter all my tubeless tyres. Never had any trouble with valves or anything (since you blow air into your valve).

A friend of mine had his Schwalbe Pro One tyre slashed, sealant didn't fix it. Added some glitter and he's back in business.

Educate me about glitter... Did I lost something in translation? (I'm French - no one is perfect)
What's the reasoning behind it ? Having the latex stick around the flakes to help seal breaches?
Does the inside of your tire looks like a unicorn poo?

Unicorn poo is the best way to describe it! Although I use a lot more sealant than glitter. It kinda fills in bigger holes so sealant can seal just the tiny holes between glitter and tyre.

Saw this in a YouTube video where it worked perfect, haven't been glitter free since. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uJl_Z8198JI

I can really recommend pink glitter, but any colour will work ;)

Never had any trouble with valves or anything (since you blow air into your valve).

Modified sealants - if they work - cannot be installed through the valve core or even the valve stem.

Yeah you put the glitter in when you install your tyres. From there on no issues with valves or anything. Just like the YouTube video

What's the reasoning behind it ? Having the latex stick around the flakes to help seal breaches?

Yes. Sealant manufacturers need to strike a balance between effectiveness, longevity and ease of install. Environment friendly is also a big factor. By upping the size and / or number of the particles in their formula, they get better performance but ease of install and longevity goes down.

By adding glitter you are upping the particle size and number dramatically, so the effectiveness of the sealant rises as it helps the sealant form bigger clumps, quicker. It's likely that this decreases longevity but I'm not aware of any conclusive evidence, I mean, most people like to ride their bikes not measure how long it takes sealant to gum up in a tyre.

Glitter aint great environmentally because it's plastic particles and that shit never goes away, whereas stock sealant is designed to degrade. Unless there is some bio-degradable glitter around? I've heard of people experimenting with coffee grinds and pepper...

But you could argue that's a bit moot given that there's so much in a modern bike that's a horror show for the environment.

It's harder to install because, as above, you can't inject it to an already mounted tyre, which in my experience is the hassle free, mess free method of getting sealant where it needs to be, and not splattered all over your house / yard.

Anyway, add glitter, seal bigger holes, make a bigger mess if you are unlucky is the TL;DR.

@Howard @Jaap Thanks for the explanation!