EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

It's cheeky, but it's not uncommon. It was used quite well as a way to force Trafigura to drop its injunction on reporting the fact it had dumped tons of toxic slop in Ivory Coast
https://www.theguardian.com/media/2009/oct/13/trafigura-drops-gag-guardian-oil

Yes, but that story was true--I meant to refer to when it's used for something that isn't true.

Well, at the time Trafi was trying to claim it wasn't true.

But the wider point is - imagine if every statement in parliament could be injuncted by a company like that, just because MP wasn't personally able to prove the allegation. It'd be horrible.

Yes, I can see that, of course. Parliament is sovereign, after all. :) I just meant that since it seems very unlikely now that there is much to the HSBC-IGPL story, in this case it misfired--but perhaps that's part of the point for allowing it, or I'm jumping the gun again.

No, I think that's right - you allow it so that things can be raised. If they have legs, then they'll stand up outside the Commons.

Yes, interesting, I'll try to interpret future letters like that in this light.

I thought this was worth reading, too.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/may/03/theresa-may-cut-and-run-europe-illegal-trade-deal-another-galaxy

I suppose there will be lawyers on the other side arguing the opposite. :)

I suppose there will be lawyers on the other side arguing the opposite. :)

Only because they think there'll be work in it for them. And IAAL.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/07/british-at-last-dutch-woman-horrified-loss-rights-monique-hawkins

So, this came up before in this thread.
The HO has made getting permanent resident easier, if you work and have p60s for 5 years/haven't been out of the country it's now simpler.

BUT you lose EU national rights if you get British citizenship, you can't bring family over easily. This was brought in by Theresa May (well, who else, that friend of immigrants) so again having citizenship is not a panacea.

And not all of us can hold dual nationality. I can't. There's also an incredible backlog on processing PR applications, so the mess is not sorted yet.

Are there circumstances in which you need 10 years of records? A Belgian acquaintance mentioned it.

I'm not sure, to be honest.

If you need to register a child an a UK citizen, you need to have records from 5 years before their birth, so in my case over 10 years. I luckily have all that.

But other people in work just sent 5 years of proof for the past 5 years, if you have to get your qualifying period backdated to 10 years, yeah you do.

There's a good forum on facebook for questions if your acquaintance has questions. https://www.facebook.com/groups/132887737155325/

Cheers. No child in the picture, and I clicked on the facebook link - they are already a member.

https://twitter.com/LeaveEUOfficial/status/861307433829924866

Wow.

An on point response:

Ha ha. Dad's Army for the Brexit generation.

Sadly it's hits the mark on so many levels.

It will be a pictorial source in a GCSE history paper one day.

This;
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2017/may/06/brexit-donor-peter-hargreaves-rights-eu-nationals-theresa-may
was the strangest article over the weekend,
the beginning of the unravelling of the hard/Tory brexit?

V.good!

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2017/may/07/the-great-british-brexit-robbery-hijacked-democracy

A very long dense read, no time atm to evaluate if laws have been broken, or if it's just a bunch of scummy rich people coming together.

What doesn't help is that there's no map of Remain cash, for reference.

Has a slight whiff of tin-foil hat, but even if some of that is true it is pretty terrifying.

more fun on twitter

https://twitter.com/sturdyAlex/status/861525709772259328

What a plonker.

A Brexit holiday as advertised in the NY Times :)