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• #10227
It's easier to judge a push happening than "did he hang onto that bottle longer than x seconds". They threw Nibs off the Giro for hanging on to the car remember?
There are often fines dished out for the more minor incidences of stuff like that too that no one even finds out about. They used to make for interesting reading at the bottom of cyclingnews reports.
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• #10228
Yes and bardet.
But technically to the rules, getting a handsling off a bottle is not OK.
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• #10229
If the rule was "no bottles from cars" then it would be easier to penalise. But it's not, so there is some scope for leniency. This was black/white push/no push. There's no rule for "if the push is not longer than 2seconds it's ok".
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• #10230
fingertip wattage meters should solve this
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• #10231
They should be made to run into shops and pay for their drinks like normal people.
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• #10232
cycling journo Thijs Zonneveld (who is on recon now) says ECHELON ALERT for Dwars door Vlaanderen today
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• #10233
Lots of running into shops for drinks in the early days. Not a lot of paying going on though...
With Contactless payment technology now, there is really no excuse anymore..
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• #10234
I think to some extent it comes down to the ability to effect the outcome of stage. Most car/bottle interaction is unlikely to have much impact on a stage, and where it has, it is more likely to be penalised.
I think here, in a team time trial where every second will effect your leader's GC chances, and the rule is pretty clear and easy to police, you've got what's coming to you. In this case, they won by two seconds. Who's to say those little pushes didn't make all the difference?
Once they decided there was a contravention it boggles the mind how they thought they could make up a sanction different to what is clearly stated in the rule book.
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• #10235
Credit Card doping thread >>>
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• #10236
I think to some extent it comes down to the ability to effect the outcome of stage. Most car/bottle interaction is unlikely to have much impact on a stage, and where it has, it is more likely to be penalised.
Also, the riders benefiting from a bit of sticky bottling are going to be the domestiques going back to the cars for bidons and snacks, not the people who are likely to be winning the race. Giving them a wee breather before heading back to the peloton with snacks and boissons is hardly the same thing as getting towed up the road to the next group, a la Nibbles.
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• #10237
Except without those bottles and snacks those who win may not have won.
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• #10238
I do like it when QuickStep go on all out offensive in the cobbled classics. A masterclass in race winning tactics today.
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• #10239
They're bolstering their chances on Friday with Terpstra, Stybar and Trentin.
E3 - I am fucking excite. First proper classic with all the hitters.
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• #10240
And it's started.
TJ removed helmet during race.
UCI rule says no removing helmets.
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• #10241
UCI rule says no removing helmets.
No it doesn't. Regulation 1.3.031 merely says 'During competitions on the road, a rigid safety helmet shall be worn.' Doesn't say you can't take it off to take your cap off and then put it back on again. Didn't Contador do exactly the same thing a while back, and nothing happened then either?
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• #10242
Nope:
Tejay should be gone, if you're gonna apply them as stringently as they did for movistar, they've got to do the same for him.
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• #10245
late to the party as always srry
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• #10246
Ah. Well, that's TJ out then. Bet they do nothing though.
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• #10247
He was just taking his hat off for fucks sake.
The Movistar thing was stupid as well, everyone knows that gentle bum touching is pro cycling s equivalent to fixie bus caressing.
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• #10248
I hope they do nothing, as it's clearly a removal for a purpose that is legitimate. And temporary. I also think Sagan did this during the Tour last year, and Contador did it in the Giro in 2015.
Movistar just have the hump because they were rightly penalised.
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• #10249
i didn't know shane archbold is still on bora. i guess he hasn't raced yet? http://www.procyclingstats.com/rider/Shane_Archbold
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• #10250
He has complications from an injury last year I believe. Not sure when he'll be back. There are 6 WT riders yet to race this year, according to procyclingstats.
I wonder what this means for sticky bottles and saddles that need adjusting.
BMC must be squeaky clean now.
Just read on inrng, that although BMC were vocal on social media, other teams also complained.