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• #2152
Over the last few months I've read quite a lot of the US media (and more than I ever have before). I've been really impressed by the quality of the journalism in both the Washington Post and the New York Times. I would consider taking out a subscription if it weren't for the fact that I already have too many others to read. I'm not sure we have much comparable this side of the pond.
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• #2153
Playing devils advocate here, doesn't that mean they were actually shit before? But yeah, I agree – they've obviously raised the bar with the depth of research and matter-of-factness in a way that the UK media doesn't have to because they don't face the same threat.
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• #2154
The UK media and the government here are awfully tight, not keeping Murdoch happy can lose you the election.
Does the USA have that problem to that extent?
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• #2155
Lobbyists, special interest groups etc.
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• #2156
Playing devils advocate here, doesn't that mean they were actually shit before?
They weren't. The Times has always been pretty good, but is definitely on fine form at the moment.
WashPo used to be a decent paper, perhaps went off the boil a bit - it's political compass definitely went a bit squiffy at one point - but then got bought by Steve 'I don't need my newspapers to earn money' Bezos, so is now in the fortunate position of being a media outlet whose sole purpose is high quality journalism.
The Grey Lady has won 119 Pulitzer Prizes, and the WashPo 47. So neither are shit or ever have been.
I could possibly think of a comparable paper to the WashPo here but I couldn't think of a comparable paper to the Times. Unfortunately the Times knocks the London Times into a cocked hat.
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• #2157
The NYT and Wapo were both great papers but suffered increasingly as people turned towards the internet for their news, obvs. Slashed budgets meant less investigation, etc. Both papers have recently enjoyed a renaissance because of an injection of cash (Bezos/Amazon with Wapo) and unsurprisingly both have seen an increase in circulation (or the equivalent digital measurement).
Btw, it was the Washington Post's investigative journalism that unearthed the Watergate Scandal.
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• #2158
Now where on earth did I leave that Nicholas Cage pic?
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• #2159
You're conflating your American tech billionaires I think. Jeff Bezos (of Amazon) owns the Washington Post.
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• #2160
Btw, it was the Washington Post's investigative journalism that unearthed the Watergate Scandal.
Never heard of it. Fake news!
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• #2161
They made an excellent movie of the story starring Harrison Ford
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• #2162
and that other guy who was in that cross dressing movie
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• #2163
Silence of the Lambs?
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• #2164
I'm pretty sure it was a young Brad Pitt
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• #2165
OMG Nixon was a replicant. Who knew. Etc.
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• #2166
I'm pretty sure it's actually Bill Zuckerberg.
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• #2167
meanwhile, at CPAC...
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• #2168
Ha ha! Presumably some trolls who managed to sneak in?
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• #2169
Surely libtard trolls would have been able to get the text central? Or maybe it's a double bluff.
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• #2171
Fox just ran a follow up on their "Sweden is going down the drain due to immigration" story. This man appeared. He is not affiliated with Sweden's national defense &/or security council. Wtafigo??
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• #2172
Foreign office & Defence department here now stating that they don't know who he is.
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• #2173
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• #2174
An immigrant to the US who according to DN has spent a year in jail? I'd say he's eminently qualified to comment on immigration and crime.
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• #2175
OK, so now fake news becomes the real news in order to perpetuate a false belief by Trump that immigration is a problem in Sweden, on a news channel he is known to favour. Ummm, anyone else getting very slightly worried?
Are glib Mastheads the new thing? The Verge started doing it a while ago as well.