• They can and do, this is the same thing, as far as I can tell. But without too many shit logos. The ones on the nose of the saddle rub off pretty quick.

  • I got the Chaunts one. Removed the logo with acetone, but it also softens/dissolves the vinyl 'leather' cover, so you have to be gentle patient, i.e., don't put too much acetone on your cloth, rub gently let the vinyl dry after each pass.
    Saddle itself: very heavy, shapewise not 'perfect', but easily the most comfortable non-Adamo-completely-split-nose one I've used. Fitted to Pompino. Tempted to buy a real SMP for a nicer bike after trying it.

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