Road Wheels & Road Wheel Recommendations?

Yep, it'll magically make me faster by simply being in the flat.

Some advice sought, if you please...

I'm looking to upgrade/supplement my race wheels (currently Pacenti SL23s on Chris King hubs and Sapim CX-rays) to something a bit more aero - this year I did struggle a bit to keep the pace on the flats and am not the biggest rider so am looking to find all the help I can get.

All of my other wheels are alloy, and I would like to retain the ability to swap the wheels out without having to change brake blocks (particularly in the case of getting flats in races). I also rate the braking surface of alloy more than carbon.

So I'm looking for a pair of alloy/carbon wheels with a reasonably aero rim (around 40-50mm), that ideally don't weigh much more than c.1600g and are in the £600-800 price bracket. Happy to go with tubs. Any ideas?

Shimano c35s are not rated as being particularly aero, and the c50s are pretty heavy - not to mention expensive.

Hed Jets

Hunt

or swisside hadron

Would AM Classic 420s work? I don't know if they are aero enough... although they do have Aero right there in the title so they must be

Is there any tunnel data for the Hunts? If I recall correctly, Swisside compare quite favourably to the big brands (at least according to their own data!)

Anyway, if you actually want to buy speed, have you got a good skinsuit/latex tubes/fast tyres etc?

why alloy carbon though. Good carbon rims with the right pads brake very well. I know mine work as well as all the alloy rims I have with good pads with the same brakes in both wet and dry. if you go with tubulars you do not overheating issues unless you are really determined.

Really? None of the Zipps I have brake anywhere near what alu clinchers do.

Maybe that's why they made me go faster...

The newer Mavic all carbon shiz brakes really, really well. Some of it is even aero. It's out of the price bracket needed though unless you can find used stuff, and it needs carbon pads.

Deepish, lightish, proven aero, carbon/alloy, £6-£800 seems to be a tough ask unless you can find something on a good discount?

AFAIK the general consensus is that carbon < alloy particularly in the wet. Certainty in my experience. That said, given that plenty of people (choppers like me and full-time pros) seem to manage just fine so that's not really the main issue.

I have some nice alloy race wheels now, and want to be able to pick and choose which wheelset I use with ease, plus have the ability to use both sets in a race if I flat

Yer...done some of the 'easy wins' (and will be buying a bongo hat in the sales so I can go full aero-wanker)

Do they mainly sell these direct rather than through retailers? Don't seem to be many about

Hunts look good albeit not super deep
https://www.huntbikewheels.com/collections/road-rim-brake-wheels/products/hunt-race-season-aero-wide-road-wheelset-1480g-31deep-24wide

These look bang on what I'm after but I don't think they do the rims any more, annoyingly
http://www.stradawheels.co.uk/product/tt-tri-alloy-wheelset/

I'm not really sure how Hed's distribution works - certainly tricky to find (but worth it)

Sub £1K Jets? http://www.sigmasport.co.uk/item/HED/Jet-6-Plus-Standard-Clincher-Wheelset/DUCP?utm_source=google&utm_medium=base&utm_campaign=base&co=GBR&cu=GBP&gclid=COCP_vmf39ACFam17QodtsIDCA&gclsrc=aw.ds - plus £5 off your first order!!1!

Alu with a carbon faring is hard to find under 1600 grams.

I'd be tempted to go for something like the Planet X wheels, they're heavier than you want but they're also pretty much the cheapest you can find new. It's either that or you go whole hog and buy some full carbon wheels.
http://www.planetx.co.uk/i/q/WPPX60CCL/planet-x-60mm-carbon-clincher-wheelset

1. generation Flo's. They have aluminum rims. ...ok but are heavier than 1600g.
   

Good price

Moving on then . I didnt know hunt was innertubeshop and two brothers looking to take on mavic in the uk . Any views on reynolds atr carbon . 30 mm deep . Will do tubeless . Wide rim steel spokes. Just maybe not as fast as the new dimpled 202's but half the price .

The alloy rims I ride on (Kinlin, Pacenti, DT Swiss e.t.c) and my carbon rims with the right pads are as about as good as each other wet or dry. I think rim brakes are rubbish in the wet regardless of the rim brake or pad. You can fiddle to make the differece rubbish and really rubbish. this is why disc brakes exsist. When its proper wet the water has to be scrubbed of first before there is any bite.

I race on carbon wheels when it proper wet and have no more trouble than on alloy rims in the same conditions. I just avoid braking when it is wet.

carbon wet braking is very rim/pad dependent.

strada used the H Plus Son SL42. It may be deep but I would not describe it as aero and 615g for each rim. I would say it is deep and heavy.

Hunt use the Kinlin XR31T and RT rim for the rear. They use smaller bearing novatec hubs which are light but that is how the sub 1500g weight is acheieved. They are also assuming the rim weight is 465g which is as low as it normally is. they actually range between 465g and 500g with a mode of about 485g to 490g which is what I assume. Otherwise they have picked a good rim. Personally for the all weather use these sort of wheels will see a hub with bigger bearings would be my preference but that is preference rather than a must.

13mm internal french lols

i want those for my non future-proofed BMC :(