So a "Security Guard" trashed a friend's bike

Silly place to park it, guard is a cunt.

Exactly.

Sounds like you want some legal advice. No offence to anyone 'on here' but here is not really a great place to ask.

To be honest I think I'm just going to wander in in a suit on my friend's behalf...

Watch out, we got a badass over here.

Silly place to park it, guard is a cunt.

Exactly this, if that exit would have make a difference on saving lifes or not, a sign would it be on it.
If i didn't knew it was a fire exit I wouls just assume it's a storage room or whatever else, and as it sits at the very end of the stairwell I would expect to be asked to move it by the landlord if it was bothering someone.

I just can't stand imagining this lunatic deliberately destroying something just for the sake of it.

Situation would be different if the bike owner was warned.

Just to be absolutely clear here, I'm not denying that the bike was possibly obstructing an exit. I'm saying that the response does not befit the initial issue. The bike was locked inside the private residence into which the exit leads. Obstruction or not, the guard entered private property and willingly caused damage instead of attempting a peaceful and non destructive resolution. That's the real issue here.

How would you feel if someone walked into your home and trashed your things just because they were vaguely near a fire exit?

Suits work. They convey authority. I'm always surprised how much more cooperative people are inclined to be when you are wearing a nice suit. If I went in wearing my ratty jeans and a loud t-shirt and pulled the letter out my cycling bag I imagine they'd just tell me to F off.

I agree, broadly, but I'm getting the impression your friend is really you :)

Absolutely not! I have become embroiled in this as the resident guy who knows about both bikes and legal stuff.

My main reason for caring is that I rebuilt this bike as a favour for my friend about two weeks ago, and it was in absolutely beautiful time-warp condition, save for lots of seized grease from age/storage.

I basically offered to deal with it on his behalf as he doesn't really feel comfortable making legal demands of people.

Here's a picture from another angle to show just how much damage was done. Honestly, I've seen bikes that have been outright vandalised in better condition than this, I mean, who rips a derailleur off like that?

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Backstop, it's not the legal advice side that I was curious about. I'm asking "on here" as this is a forum of city cyclists, to whom this sort of thing is likely to have happened before and they might have some wise words of wisdom.

I can't help but think that I would be really pissed off if I rented a flat and no one told me it was a fire exit for a club. It surely means that the security of your flat is massively compromised for a start.

Would if I could. I'll try and get a look at the agreement over the weekend and see what's going on. I'm supposed to be picking the remains up on Sunday to see if there's anything at all I can do in terms of repairs to the bike. I think the stays are crushed beyond a bit of cold-setting though.

Welcome to student lettings.

Derailleurs are the first thing that snap on a bike, it's the way they bent frame and wheel (and railings) that makes me think this person has serious issues.

I'll try and get a look at the agreement over the weekend and see what's going on.

Which door is your friend's post delivered through? Kinda easier than picking apart an AST agreement.

To be honest I'm pretty upset, it was a nice bike, and I've lost out too. The deal was that I repaired the bike on my friend's offer that once he no longer needed the bike at the end of the academic year, he'd give it to me. It's nothing particularly special as a bike but I quite fancied the frame for building a sweet touring/commuting hack.

Even so, this doesn't justify or permit criminal damage.

Yeah, this is true. I was thinking more about the assumption of privacy / security in what looks like the a communal / shared stairwell. The thinking being that if postie can get it in, your assumption is wrong.

If he can't, though, then yeah some time with the agreement might be an idea. But again, to what end?

All I'd really like to see out of this is for my friend to be compensated for the quite frankly excessive damage caused to his bike. The argument of the club (if they present one) is irrelevant. Their security guard destroyed the bike, and the bike was not moved out of the way as a result of the damage.

The security guard took it upon himself to remediate the situation how he saw fit, without considering the other less destructive options. Whatever the regulation surrounding the fire exit, this does not change the fact that he wilfully destroyed the bike whilst it was on private property to which he had no absolute right of access. Even if the building was owned by the club (which I highly doubt as a background check indicates the club is a commercial tenant), entering without permission and causing damage contravenes the right to Quiet Enjoyment which a tenant holds.

And in answer to the questions above about the postal delivery point, I don't know, but the norm around here is for post to be delivered to front doors only.

Only one way to get to the bottom of this.

Chain another bike to the railings and then start a fire in the nightclub.

Chain another bike the security guard to the railings and then start a fire in the nightclub.

FTFY

Well, thanks guys, this thread has been quite entertaining. I'll try and post an update once I've collected the bike on Sunday and we've had a chance to talk to the nightclub staff about compensation for the damages.

Again, I'll try and get some more info on the status of the stairwell. As far as I remember the front door is locked with a regular key, not an intercom/buzzer, and has a post slot. Either way, having an explicit post/courier option doesn't give some random security guy the right to enter, as last time I checked nightclubs aren't generally part of the postal service, who usually have special agreements on this.

;o)))

My shoes are perfect, thank you very much.