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  • The general mistake though is lumping "People who are going to vote for the Conservatives, Brexit and Trump" in one basket. Given Labours strength in the North of England wasn't this the region to back BREXIT most vigorously? Far to many people want to make this a simple right v left / good v bad thing but it isn't that simple.

  • Anti-globalism of work / neo-liberalism was a reason in the North among voters, from what I've seen.

    I'm rather pissed off with the hard left in the UK here for promoting to leave the EU, as they are equally clueless on how to solve the issues of labor moving to low wage countries and now we are looking at an even worse situation with the Tories.

    If the conservatives/city labour would have not neglected whole areas the past 4o years, we would not have been here. That's not a left/right issue though, it's a lack of work in areas/vs cities issue.

  • Yup. This is the main issue here (and arguably in 'Murica, too) with our political parties.
    Neither party seem to want to do anything about it.

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