Internal geared hubs?

Seems like those 177mm axles are the rocking horse shit of the Sturmey Archer world. There's maybe a more readily available 160-odd-mm axle that might work...

Cheers, had a look on their site but not making much sense of all the available axles, might fire them an email and see if they can help though.

@m_v
Is this one?
https://www.sjscycles.co.uk/hub-spares/sturmey-archer-axle-for-xlrd3-177-mm-hsa808/

Yes it is. I'm clearly blind and computer illiterate tonight for some reason! Cheers!

Kindernay 14spd mtb hub

Their starter pack is almost a grand!!!

Interesting, Rohloff may have a competitor now :)

It'd be really cool if you could slide the geared bit out and replace it with a simple freewheel thread shell so that the one wheel could be 14speed or ss.

If they're as reliable as a Rohloff, then imo, Rohloff will become the under dog. The option of swapping between bikes / wheel sets is a game changer.

That looks real neat

That looks real neat expensive

In the same price range as a rohlhoff

Small volume high precision engineering in not selling for peanuts shocker

Rohloff have been in the games for quite some time and have a good reputation, so Kindernay have some massive catching up to do.

Is it me or are all the pictures of the hub on their website are just computer generated images?

That photo up there seems legit

Although the cable arranger doobry is not real

I don't mean that the photos are fake, only that they look like computer generated images implying they haven't actually made any prototypes or built a bike with it. They may have done but if so, the website gives no clue.

Rohloff has very good customer service and its international too, if you break down on the road they will send parts.

I'm intrigued how the Kindernay hub looks inside and its good to see innovation. But of course as with Shimano's new free hub ratchet internal design, you always take a risk buying a new design :)

I've just acquired a second-hand rear wheel built on a Nexus 8-speed hub. I was wondering about giving it a quick service before installing it. Has anyone had any success using cheaper oil-bath options (automatic transmission fluid seems like the budget alternative of choice), or does anyone have the proper expensive reusable shimano oil and soaking that I could borrow in return for a couple of beers?

ATF does the trick. I have nearly 16000 km on my Nexus 8-speed premium, without any internal problem ever. Oil baths have been around every 3000-4000 km.

If only the cogs would last a little longer, IGHs would really be trouble free, but at least those are easily replaceable.

The trick is to grease what needs to be greased first, and then dip the thing in the oil.

Thanks! Do you use the specific shimano grease, or just normal (lithium?) bike bearing grease?

So you grease the bearings and gears first and then ATF dip it? I though part of the point of the oil/ATF bath was to flush away any metal particles created by gear wear. Doesn't having the grease on the moving parts trap them in place?

The dip indeed is meant to flush out any particles. I only grease the rollers on the outside of the gear system though, with standard lithium grease.

Have not had to do anything about the standard wheel hub bearings. And should it come to that, as older wheels might do, you'd need to take the gear bit apart.

Sheldon Brown has the service manual online: https://www.sheldonbrown.com/nexus8/index.htm

A drivetrain efficiency test for several internally geared systems.

http://www.cyclingabout.com/speed-difference-testing-gearbox-systems/

Does anyone know if it's possible to route a gear cable to a Nexus/Alfine hub so that it's not just one long run of outer cable-tied to the down tube and chainstay. It would seem cleaner to run it more like a derailleur setup.

Theoretically speaking, what would happen if you ran a pinion gearbox and a rohloff on the same bike...?