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  • I bet bullshit.

    Your opinion is based on a judgement of someone's behaviour, and what you consider to be proper behaviour.

  • Fucking bullshit.

    You're wrong.

  • I would think the trauma of being sexually assaulted and raped would be enough to put anyone off engaging in any sexual activity for a period of time, let alone 2 weeks

  • I don't think you understand what rape is, nor the variety of people's lives and circumstances.

    What is"a period of time"?

  • Hang on you tit, 'you're wrong'

    Who says I'm fucking wrong?!

    Jesus, thank fuck you weren't mates with Pol Pot

  • Patronising cunt. An ex of mine was raped some years before we met and I remember her telling me about it in depth. He was a university 'friend', she told me about the friendship they had beforehand, the actual event and the aftermath...don't you dare call me out in this you arsehole cunt

  • Who says I'm fucking wrong?!

    I do you tit

  • arsehole cunt

    reminds me of one of my favourite jokes.

  • Pistanator hasn't made any claim about this particular case, he's just speculating based on his own past experiences. While it's unhelpful and insensitive to speculate on this case, he's not exactly 'wrong'.

  • I don't follow your logic.

    Of course some victims don't want anything to do with sex for a very long time. But not all, and the length of time isn't some kind of indicator the 'truth' of being raped.

    I'm glad your friend told you about it, talking about it isn't as common as it happens. If you knew more people's stories you might find the aftermath varies. I'm not being fucking patronising. People vary.

  • Its also possible to be raped and not be aware of it, according to the law. This applies in this case.

  • So she was raped and not aware of it yet was aware enough the next morning to report it? 🤔

  • I'm not interpreting it as specific to this case. But thanks.

    Knowing a specific situation where sure as hell a rape victim would be horrified by the thought of sex in less than two weeks? I'm not arguing with that.

    I'm arguing against the extrapolation to "I bet if you asked a hundred", and "I would've thought that..". Because those are the kinds of opinions that mean that people cast doubt on rape - not based on the event, but on whether you're up for having sex later, and when.

    And that is fucking bullshit

  • Does seem very strange that a 'rape victim' would be sexually active again 2 weeks after the alleged attack

    ^This is dangerous speculation and irrelevant to the issue of whether she consented (or was able to consent) to sex with Evans. Period.

  • I think the 'fuck me harder' quote from her while Evans was 'raping her' would probably close this case straight away no?

  • I suppose you also have to question why she never pursued a case against the other fella? This was a double rape right?

  • don't you dare call me out in this

    Wtf. You give a shit about this, right? You know a rape victim and their story. You know more, guaranteed, even if you don't know their stories. I'm not "calling you out" in some chest-beating contest. If you give a shit, maybe reconsider your assumption.

  • Who is this cunt ^ and where's the ignore function?

  • Shrug.
    Whatever. If you'd rather hold onto your precious opinion it's pointless arguing.

  • If you're this fired up about one potentially falsely accused football player, you must be incensed about the number of women who don't pursue their accusers because they have no faith in the system or society. You know, justice and everything.

  • Does it?

    [Edit]

    Wow. You're just covering yourself in glory, aren't you.

  • How can you could he obtain consent when

    In court, Evans admitted that he lied to get the key for the hotel room and did not speak to the woman before, during or after sex

    https://www.theguardian.com/football/2016/oct/14/footballer-ched-evans-cleared-of-in-retrial

  • Does seem very strange that a 'rape victim' would be sexually active again 2 weeks after the alleged attack

    Just for a more measured response/explanation...

    The reason what you wrote got everyone's goat is that it came across as though you're judging her on her sexual behaviour with (I presume) no knowledge of the the personalities of the people involved. Putting rape victim in quotes reads as patronising, even if that's not what you intended and uses the same style of language as a lot of rape apologists.

    I understand how initially you might think that someone who is the victim of sexual assault wouldn't want sex that soon after the event. But it's not that simple. Also from what I understand of the story this happened during what started out as consensual sex, which I could imagine might make someones feelings about the event incredibly complicated.

  • How can you obtain consent

    Through actions/behaviour.

    Have you ever kissed someone without talking to them? If so how did you know they consented?

  • This was a double rape right?

    Again not massively up on this case but my understanding was that both were charged but the other guy was found not guilty.

    It some ways it's doesn't sound that dissimilar to the 2Pac rape.

    I'll repost this link from earlier because I think it would be useful for you to read

    [ Jesús this forum and links / photos / quotes ! ]

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