Using phone handset whilst driving

It would never condone anything so tame.

space docking tactics through the window whilst pedalling?

I've considered carrying a small plackard saying something like "put your fucking phone down!"

It's another idea I've never got round to, like one of this reflective things that sticks out to the side of your bike, but modified with a scraper on it and a sign saying "careful my paint scraper"
(this was supposed to keep those close driving wankers at bay

I agree. You don't damage anything this way and most people get a little shock.

the downside is that you never know what their reaction will be, they might act as if you're dented their precious vehicle, might try and 'nubbed' you to try and get some sort of revenge or worse, actually try and run you over.

the downside is that you never know what their reaction will be, they might act as if you're dented their precious vehicle, might try and 'nubbed' you to try and get some sort of revenge or worse, actually try and run you over.

If they look aggressive, I read their number plate back to them, or take a photo of it.

On our way to asda last night (in parrywifes car) I notice the guy who had been all over the road the previous mile or so, was on his mobile.
We were next to him in traffic, so I opened the window and shouted to put the phone doown.
He loooked at me, so I made the hanging up motion (had wasthe receiver putting it down) he nodded, gave me the thumbs up and did it.
It felt good. I like to think I saved a life.

On our way to asda last night (in parrywifes car) I notice the guy who had been all over the road the previous mile or so, was on his mobile.
We were next to him in traffic, so I opened the window and shouted to put the phone doown.
He loooked at me, so I made the hanging up motion (had wasthe receiver putting it down) he nodded, gave me the thumbs up and did it.
It felt good. I like to think I saved a life.

Saved 2 lives by the looks of it.

So whats the difference between a hands free and using a handset? You're still having a conversation down the phone. Ok, so you've got an extra hand to use but think of all those disabled people with only one arm who still drive.

you've got an extra hand to use but think of all those disabled people with only one arm who still drive.

yes, but they will be concentrating and not on the phone

So whats the difference between a hands free and using a handset? You're still having a conversation down the phone. Ok, so you've got an extra hand to use but think of all those disabled people with only one arm who still drive.

WTF? You really thought that one through.

and driving an automatic car

or a specially adapted car

oz. you really are fucking special

So whats the difference between a hands free and using a handset? You're still having a conversation down the phone. Ok, so you've got an extra hand to use but think of all those disabled people with only one arm who still drive.

Don't forget that they have special device fitted in their cars, like a ball shaped joystick on their steering wheel to enable them to turn the wheel 360 degree.

it's much more complex than you think.

Don't forget that they have special device fitted in their cars, like a ball shaped joystick on their steering wheel to enable them to turn the wheel 360 degree.

it's much more complex than you think.

I think therein lies the problem.

Oz is too simple for complex thought.

So whats the difference between a hands free and using a handset? You're still having a conversation down the phone. Ok, so you've got an extra hand to use but think of all those disabled people with only one arm who still drive.

The truth is, not much. It's not the use of the hand to hold the phone that is the problem. But it's easy to see someone using a hand held so the law went for that; it's a compromise. Or a cop out depending on how you look at it.

The truth is, not much. It's not the use of the hand to hold the phone that is the problem. But it's easy to see someone using a hand held so the law went for that; it's a compromise. Or a cop out depending on how you look at it.

But isn't the crux of Oz's argument that there is no difference between someone using a mobile in a fully specced car with one hand by choice, as opposed to someone with one arm through no choice of their own, driving an adapted vehicle? (while not on the phone hands free or not)

I have to agree with Mr Lunch's assessment.

High five!

I know... I'll get my coat.

Say I wanted to use my spare time to volunteer as one of them not-quite-police people you see doing fuck all around town. Were I to spend my time watching the roads in search of idiots using mobile phones whilst driving, would I be able to dish out fines?

There's often confusion between Community Support Officers who are salaried yet don't have a warrant card nor do they have powers of arrest.

And Special Constables who are essentially unpaid volunteers working a set number of hours a month that fits in with their other work commitments. They do have a warrant card and full powers of arrest, they also get the same training as a regular Police Constable although their role is one of supporting the regular police. It's a valuable way of doing something for your community but you wouldn't be able to fine someone for driving whilst talking on their mobile unless in uniform. Although flashing your warrant card at them and politely asking them not to be complete cocks would no doubt have the desired effect.

So whats the difference between a hands free and using a handset? You're still having a conversation down the phone. Ok, so you've got an extra hand to use but think of all those disabled people with only one arm who still drive.

You can I believe still be prosecuted for using a hands free phone, albeit connected by say Bluetooth, if the phone isn't secured - say sitting on your lap, or the passenger seat.

When I used to drive I hated taking phone calls when driving as I knew the quality of my driving dropped.

How some people can cycle with headphones in London is beyond me... (** goes off to find relevant thread **)

Thank you. Someone is clever enough to decipher my ramblings.

An interesting new study here:

http://www.pnas.org/content/early/2016/02/17/1513271113

You need a subscription to read it, but I expect longish summaries of the contents will soon appear across news web-sites. (I've seen one on a German site.)

Dredge... But I spotted on the train, over someone's shoulder that the DM has taken up campaign against mobile phone use at the wheel on its front page today.