Please report dangerous drivers to the police - Roadsafe. Report to plod, not just whinge here.

Have you noticed the name of the thread?

When actual contact is made it should be reported directly to plod.

Hope you are not too shaken up, these incidents are unacceptable but also very frightening.

I think the law needs to catch up, cases like this are just baffling:

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/05/26/hands-free-driver-who-knocked-over-and-killed-boy-7-was-only-han/

Ms Asker claimed she hadn't seen Seth and only became aware of him on impact. She was on the phone at the time and a number of calls were deleted after the crash, the coroner heard.

Ms Asker, who was driving at around 27mph in the 30mph zone, later said she had no idea how calls had disappeared and said her mobile had been placed in the pocket of the driver's door on loudspeaker when the collision happened.

Giving evidence to the coroner, she said: "I did not see him. I could not do anything.

"I had my side lights on as it was beginning to get dark. My phone was on speaker phone as I had no hands free in the car.

"I do not think my driving was impaired by being on the phone. It would have been no different to a passenger sat next to me talking."

"I do not think my driving was impaired by being on the phone. It would have been no different to a passenger sat next to me talking."

Very correct.

Not really. A passenger can see surroundings and adjust when they talk to the driver, and it's easier for the driver to tell them to be quiet when they need to concentrate more. Also speaker phone driving usually involves fiddling about with phone angles, adjusting volumes, "sorry I can't hear you very well, one sec.... is that better?" etc etc. Not the same as a passenger.

Yes I have. No contact made and no footage of incident hence the initial reluctance to report to the police.

I'm fine, old and ugly enough to have dealt with this kind of thing before, although his absolute rage did give me enough concern that he may follow through with the threats to hop onto the kerb behind a lamppost...

I was thinking more of distraction by just talking to the passenger alone, but all that additional point is valid.

What do I know? I usually use sign language with the drivers.

I think its just a clever defense in court. But I call bullshit to it being in the passenger door. Phone on speaker only really works when its out in the open, which most likely means her lap.

More likely on her hand, holding the speaker part of the phone close to her mouth, a lots of people seemed to think that's a grey area.

"I do not think my driving was impaired by being on the phone. It would have been no different to a passenger sat next to me talking."

Ignorant as well as a child killer. Great job, Asker.

she dropped the phone in the door wotnot when she realised she'd just clattered someone aicmfp.

It turns out our brains don't cope well with communicating with people we can't see and that we can't properly hear.

http://www.businessinsider.com/talking-on-a-hands-free-cellphone-is-as-bad-as-driving-drunk-2013-8?IR=T

Definitely believe that, not sure I'd put it in the same league as drunk driving though.

Well, I guess you'd pick objective measures impacted by being at a certain level of drunk, and then compare the same measures when driving whilst using speakerphone.

I'd rather it was recongisned that speakerphone / handsfree is just 'fucking dangerous' though, and that they were outlawed. There's shit loads of research backing this stuff up from loads of different fields.

But that would mean listening to 'experts', and, well, we've had enough of them, and child killers like Asker obviously know better.

I'd rather it was recongisned that speakerphone is just 'fucking dangerous' though, and that they were outlawed. There's shit loads of research backing this stuff up from loads of different fields.

Currently in Spain, you're only allow to use a true hand-free phone, so a mobile phone with speaker on is illegal, not only that, listening to an mp3 player is also illegal.

@edscoble Yeah wasn't entirely clear - I meant hands free too. Any type of device faciliating a conversation with someone / something that isn't in the vehicle: dangerous and banned.

Exactly, what I meant was it would be nice if the British law is like the Spanish when it come to hand-free.

When the phone was dropped it must have unlocked the phone, gone to calls log and deleted the most recent calls.

Y'know, the same thing must've happened to my browser history when I dropped my laptop the other day...

I see loads of drivers holding their phones up to their chins, having dialled a number with their fingers, and chatting into it on speaker phone...assuming that's 'hands free'.

I see loads of stupid, selfish dickheads holding their phones up to their chins having dialled a number with their fingers, and chatting into it on speaker phone...assuming that's 'hands free'.

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Hermes do that whole independent contractor thing so will claim they aren't an employee or whatever.

I thought they made overpriced scarfves?

Didn't want to post on the rider down, but this made my blood boil a little. Targeted advertising at its best.

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