Kinesis Owners

How long is the stem on the Willier? If you buy a longer frame Kinesis, you don't want to have to run an 80mm stem or something to make up for the extra length TT.

A typical 54cm road bike have a stack of 545 and reach of 385.

A 56cm have a stack of 565 and reach of 395.

Should give you an idea of what to look for.

Why not? Not like 80mm gonna cause issues, it still ride like a bike.

Anyone tried the GF TI disc?

A penny farthing still rides like a bike. This is about getting good fit + good handling. ~100mm stems are where it's at. Accept no substitutes.

The Wilier stem is 100mm.
However, changing stem length would be to compensate for the reach, not necessarily top tube length, surely?

Aren't you comparing Willier reach with Kinesis reach? Isn't that what this whole discussion was about? Just make sure it's not stupidly out of range so you need a silly stem.

Yes, but the point that I'm making is that two bikes with different top tube lengths can have the same reach.

I see, I wrote TT. I meant reach. You knew what I was talking about though so WWIII averted.

You're turning into my wife @hippy - expecting me to re-interpret what you say ;)

Like your wife, I'll give you a clip 'round the 'ead for being an internet bike fitting smartarse.

I think you'd be better off on a 57cm 4S anyway, specifically the one hanging up in my flat...

Looks to me like the 55.5cm would fit you better out of those two. Slightly longer headtube, but you've got a few spacers under the stem anyway, and slightly longer top tube (but as the wilier has a steeper seat tube the reach'll likely work out about the same).

I am not an expert though!

Anyone got/still running a Decade Virtue ? Only just finished mine and I feel i've been left behind in the rapture.

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Green and gold. Great choice. I'm sure we'll be awesome again in Tokyo. :P

lol Was going to do yellow, but that would probably been a little John Deere ;-)

You'll still get good handling with the 80mm stem, it only feel different but still handle the same.

Yes but it's sub-optimal. Next.

Kinesis 4S Disc has an "integrated FSA type headset"

Anyone know which model it is, specifically, and if there's something else, preferably better, I can replace it with?

Have a look here -may give you some idea

http://www.fullspeedahead.com/product-category/road/?filtering=1&filter_component_type=677

Why would you want to replace it anyway ? What's wrong with it ? If it's worn, a simple change of bearings would suffice ?

I can't think of anything better, unless you are feeling flush and fancy a mix-n-match Hope one. Not to say those are better, just more expensive.

The old bung kept loosening off during TCR so I want to kill it in the face now I have a new bung. It's not strictly necessary more a 'just in case' the bearings suffered.

I have exactly the same problem with my ATR fork. The bung is crappy.

I tightened the headset again this morning. I'll see how it goes.

This is with the longer, knurled bung I replaced the stock one with.

Which replacement are you using? I bought a Hope one and it's slightly too wide for the steerer.

Bung? Mentioned it somewhere else on here.... hang on...

It was the long (52mm) ITM one, here:
http://www.ribblecycles.com/au/itm-carbon-1-1-8-expanding-stem-cap/

Kinesis 4S Disc has an "integrated FSA type headset"

Anyone know which model it is, specifically, and if there's something else, preferably better, I can replace it with?

Oh hai!

You need to get your S.H.I.S straight! More info here.

Merlin expand on Kinesis' description: "Tapered headtube – 1” 1/8 top race, tapered to 1” ½ bottom 36x45 integrated FSA type."

I know, "ain't nobody got time for that" so I've done the heavy lifting for you: IS41/IS52 40 (45°).

Cane Creek 40 series is the Tstr fan-boi headset of choice: best function/price balance. (fifth row down, second or third column from the right).

You're le welcome!

PS Usual caveats apply. [I have no idea what I'm doing meme]