Power Meters / Powermeters (SRM, Powertap, Quarq, Ergomo, Vector, Stages, power2max, P2M, 4iii, InPower, Cinch)

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Which song?

Urgh tubs, pukes on cock. Thanks for saving me some cash :)

no, you are teh tubby one

Tried using Stages for the first time in a while day before yesterday. Garmin finds PM, no reading, calibration reading: 0.

Sigh, guess I'll be sending this one back too.

Training peaks - is it worth it?

Do i just go for the free sign up or do I have to shell out for the premium service?

Or should i go for WKO+ or Golden Cheetah?

Was asking myself the same last night. I'm not entirely sure what you get for free. Do you get the main graph with TSS, Fatigue, Form and Fitness; the only thing I really want it for? I'm only turbo-ing at the minute, so it would be to import data into that'd been recorded through Zwift or Trainerroad, that means about £20-25/month...pretty steep for the sake of one chart.

And I'm a little worried by the thought that to benefit from tracking such things, it would need to know the details of all my activities right? So that means power for the commuting bike, summer road bike and winter road bike? And then it'd make sense to record the other metrics too, sleep, nutrition etc. I'm quickly envisaging a life like that of a lab rat. An impoverished lab rat that's spent every penny it has on power meters, integrated smart body composition scanners, fitness bands and nutriton tracking apps.

Oops, dp.

I have now gone from just having a smart turbo (which measures/controls power) to having power measurement on the road and commuting bike.

Given the two power meters I feel I ought to start tracking more of the data and looking to see where I can improve.

Do your PMC chart in Google Drive for nada just chucking in the TSS scores from TP basic metrics or Golden Cheetah it?

Tp is good, I like it. It syncs to my phone.

British cycling have a 40% off code. Pm me if you want it.

I prefer WKO to TP. But then I don't like sharing data with people if I don't have to.

I don't like sharing data with people if I don't have to

So all that stuff about the state of your arse was necessary? :-)

What do they say? Anecdotes != data?

You loved it.

hippy keepin' it real for lfgss since '07

TP is a nice middle ground between strava and the more in depth options. I like it.

I find it important to follow my TSS values and peak powers.

Weirdly these tell me I'm currently undertrained :0

I find the most useful thing is programming in blocks of training leading up to an event, so it's pretty useful for planning your season/taper etc. You only get this with premium but as @skinny says, it's a lot cheaper with BC.

Leave hippy's arse alone

(it was only for me xxx)

I think that's the conclusion I've been coming to. I've been playing a little this morning with WKO+4 and Golden Cheetah. I think I'd never make use of WKO+, it's overkill. Golend Cheetah seems much more accessible and usable, but it's giving errors on importing some of my .FIT files. TP has the advantage that it's online, so I can fanny about with it from work when I'm at a comouter for 8 hours of the day, but rarely on the home computer, and Zwift will sync with it automatically after workouts.

You can get GoldenCheetah to sync with dropbox so you can access your data in multiple locations. Involves pressing a few extra buttons but it works. Not sure if its possible to automate it.

And I'm a little worried by the thought that to benefit from tracking such things, it would need to know the details of all my activities right? So that means power for the commuting bike, summer road bike and winter road bike?

Yeah this is annoying, and can easily lead to mulitple power meters. If you do most of your important training on the bike with the power meter, you can estimate TSS for your commutes etc as long as you record them with your garmin. In Golden Cheetah there is a "estimate power" that will do a strava like power estimate based on your speed and elevation. It will chuck out a TSS value at the end. You can then delete the power data but it keeps the TSS estimate.

I track my commutes this way, not ideal but not bad either. If your commutes are a big part of your training load than this isn't the best.

Before I had a PM on my commuter, I just rode my commute for a week with a PM and took an average.

All good ideas. I think though, that if I'm to bother tracking power data at all, my 220 miles of commuting per week is such a large percentage of my riding that to omit it or fudge it would defeat the purpose. Hopefully Dammit will be providing a solution to the commute, which means I just need to find the cheapest possible solution for my Rotor equipped summer and winter road bikes. And a Garmin or some such.

You should save your money on powermeters and move closer to your workplace. :P

how do i get golden cheetah to show tss or bike score? at the moment it is showing triscore, but i cant fucking swim or run

Covered at the bottom of this page. Annoying how it's not there by default though

https://github.com/GoldenCheetah/GoldenCheetah/wiki/FAQ-METRICS

How much does it vary though?

My commute is short. So I just consider it background. It will always give the same amount of fatigue and Fitness so would simply move all my numbers upwards very slightly.

If you do a decent commute then it should be logged. But if it doesnt really vary. Just ride it With Power once or twice and use that figure each day.