EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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  • Interesting. I wonder if Gove and BJ will split the leave vote leaving the way for (most likely) May or Crabb.

  • I can't find any good qualities about any of them, Boris, Michael or Theresa.
    They seem to have done nothing notable or good in their time?

    And whatever good Boris may have done in London, was completely undone when he supported leave to enable his dream, not his moral compass.

  • Of everyone, Michael 'We've had enough of experts' Gove is the nadir.

  • What good did Boris ever do in London?

  • He claimed most of Ken's projects for his own?

  • Didn't he invent cycling? I'm pretty sure no-one cycled before bojo

  • Also, the olympics, he won those

  • Not forgetting that he also abolished poverty, racism, homelessness and created unprecedented harmony between transport bosses and their workers.

  • Gove has played it pretty well so far, this is his best chance to grab the steering wheel, they've been left with the choice of Boris or nothing. I don't trust Gove one iota.

    Anyone doing the march to Westminster on Saturday?

  • I can't find any good qualities about any of them, Boris, Michael or Theresa.>

    Theresa May has the fact that she's not Johnson or Gove going for her... very little else mind.

  • This is good;

    bostonglobe.com/opinion/2016/­06/24/britain-democratic-failure/Mx888Cl­e7t6OUyuWyX8n2M/story.html?event=event25­

    Excellent article. Taps into my 'merican based WTF reaction to this whole thing. It's the principle of checks and balances.

    These bits in particular

    The idea that somehow any decision reached anytime by majority rule is necessarily “democratic” is a perversion of the term. Modern democracies have evolved systems of checks and balances to protect the interests of minorities and to avoid making uninformed decisions with catastrophic consequences. The greater and more lasting the decision, the higher the hurdles.

    That’s why enacting, say, a constitutional amendment generally requires clearing far higher hurdles than passing a spending bill. Yet the current international standard for breaking up a country is arguably less demanding than a vote for lowering the drinking age.

  • Puts that 'accidentally' leaked email yesterday in a new light.

  • Guesses why?

    Seems Johnson's probably refused to give him something. Chancellor? If so, why? Someone else? Osborne? Creating a "unity government"?

  • Mrs Gove, who looks a bit like Gerard Depardieu in drag, works for the Daily Mail. Apparently Paul Dacre has reservations about Boris so presumably Gove is their choice.

  • they've been left with the choice of Boris or nothing.

    100% Gove has played this well, but the more I look at it the more I think it will be Theresa May.

    My view on this has also been hugely swayed by someone I know in Westminster saying well before the Referendum that May had already been pipelined and would be kept out of the Referendum debate.

    She has held senior positions, is anti-immigration, and lost weight. Seems like a front runner to me.

  • Seems Johnson's probably refused to give him something. Chancellor? If so, why? Someone else? Osborne? Creating a "unity government"?

    I think thats what we were supposed to deduce, having seen yesterdays email.

    I believe that Gove ('s wife) has just kicked his heels in the race at exactly the time he planned to do so.

  • Robert Peston is suggesting Johnson is delaying his leadership launch.

  • Gove is a parasite. He leeched off Boris Johnson to gull the country into Brexit, then stabbed him in the front to try and seize the crown for himself. He is a second rate non-entity, who is prepared to sacrifice everyone on the altar of his own ambition. I wish him extreme ill.

  • May sticking it to Boris too, "The last time he negotiated with the Germans he came back with 3 nearly new water cannons."

  • Let's not forget that he is/was a close friend of Cameron.

    Who needs enemies with friends like that.

  • Great, just great.

    Bye bye EHRC then if they don't decide to join the EEC.

    Can this not all be in done a in a stadium with gladiator fighting? ;)

  • Surprising as you'd have thought they'd could give him one of the many cabinet positions he hasn't yet held.

  • Just to clarify, when I say "many" I mean all.

    I don't count shadow secretary for TV.

  • Yeah, she's not exactly my first choice.

    I keep swaying between wanting Gove or Johnson. In balance I think Johnson as I don't believe voters will ultimately support him, and I think he could be shown up.

  • He doesn't have long. Isn't the deadline in an hour and a half?

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