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• #177
https://discussion.theguardian.com/comment-permalink/77659898
Benn & Eagle briefing Kuennsberg for 9 months!
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• #178
Hahaha, from a source close to Corbyn? "It now emerges..." my arse.
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• #180
There are the Socialist Party, the Socialist Workers Party, and the Communist Party of Great Britain and the Green Party, from where many new Corbyn supporters came in the first place. I'm sure their parties would welcome them back.
This is an oft repeated statement but clearly has no factual basis. The SWP, Socialist Party and CPGB would probably struggle to muster 5,000 members between them all, and that was before the Martin Smith crisis within the SWP.
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• #181
their conclusion:
"This is not a string of random attacks"
I'm stunned. You mean people who didn't support Corbyn spoke to each other? How dare they. However it's come about, hopefully we're back on track to beating the tories.
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• #182
Look for the placards at Corbyn rallies.
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• #183
According to Twitter, Corbyn is now in talks to let George Galloway back into the Labour Party. Is he actually a Conservative Manchurian Candidate?
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• #184
Yep, I have the commemorative 'Beating the Tories' mugs from 2010 and 2015,
although the printing is a bit worn,
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• #185
Have you ever been to a demo? You might remember the SWP placards were particularly prevalent during the Iraq protests, but their membership numbers were still miniscule. These groups come prepared and hand out the placards to anyone who will take them. This isn't indicative of broaders support or membership numbers.
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• #186
Milliband was percieved as weak on the economy, and too London centric. That is why he lost. Next time we are going to win. Are people like you going to help?
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• #187
Fair point.
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• #188
Milliband was perceived as the kid who got bullied in school.
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• #189
Ed Milliband was the guy who could not eat a bacon sandwich in a manner that pleased The Sun,
and,
Paul Dacre told me his Dad, (who served in WW2 and apparently paid his taxes), 'hated the UK'.Who have the PLP got lined up to deflect and prosper under this sustained level of crap?
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• #190
I'm going to vote for Eagle. I though she was really impressive in PMQs, she's managed to serve under Corbyn without having her loyalty questioned or being but on a blacklist (other than by that clown in your grauniad comment) and importantly for me she's a northern, working class woman, the opposite of Milliband. Also has experience in government, which I count as a plus, rather than as proof that she is a bloodthirsty warmongering fascist establishment lizard or whatever.
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• #191
Any policies?
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• #192
2 minutes to find this
http://www.itv.com/news/update/2016-06-09/were-not-in-the-eu-eagles-slip-up-draws-laughter/
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• #193
Any policies?
Ha, you're keen already, good to hear.
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• #194
See? Pure class.
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• #195
Labour rebels hope to topple Jeremy Corbyn in 24-hour blitz after EU referendum
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Labour rebels believe they can topple Jeremy Corbyn after the EU referendum in a 24-hour blitz by jumping on a media storm of his own making.
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By fanning the flames with front bench resignations and public criticism they think the signatures needed to trigger a leadership race can be gathered within a day.All that from a Telegraph article from 2 weeks ago...
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• #196
I am willing to line up behind anyone with a good chance to dislodge the next unelected (by a GE), Tory PM. The PLP certified candidate must have the fortitude to withstand the barrage of abuse the rightwing press, forified by the knowledge that they have just toppled Cameron, will daily print without any consideration for the truth.
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• #197
Just for the record, not 'my comment'.
I linked to 'a comment' on the Guardian, as it has the best, so far, explanation for the PLP's actions. I'm all ears for the 'official line'. -
• #198
Also this article in the Telegraph from 6 weeks ago:
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• #199
There is that old Jeremy Hardy joke,
about all the anti-Thatcher protests in the '80s,
where the most frequently overheard line from the organisers was always,
'I thought YOU were organising the banners'.
SWP saw a gap in the market, and an effective way to gather publicity for their (lost) cause.The suspicious might believe that such awareness is normally lacking from the forlorn Left, and that some judicious donations from rightwing troublemakers would result in the kind of pay-off stated above, with Alastair Campbell able to dismiss any pro-Corbyn demo as solely down to the SWP.
csb
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• #200
David Cameron is now jumping onto the "It's Corbyn's fault" narrative in PMQs.
Picking up on the success of the Leave campaigns post-truth politics, or just trying to save his own reputation?
"in the Corbyn case, the option of replacing “the staff” does not exist without showing contempt to the electorate, since they are not mere party functionaries, but MPs elected by 9.3 million Labour voters."
https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/jun/28/the-guardian-view-on-jeremy-corbyn-after-the-experiment