• Still the same frame shape though...bb shell is just in a different place relative to the bottom point of the frame...see the clearer picture on HongFu's site...

  • That looks like the BB30 version, so it's hard to tell whether the centre is any lower. The point though is that something which is better than a T4 as a frame with wheels in may not be better once you've added rider and handlebars 25mm further above the frame.

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