EU referendum, brexit and the aftermath

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1. London stays as part of EU
   
2. 2nd referendum
   
   

These people are equally out of touch as their counterpart they are blaming ..

So angry that the shadow cabinet are quitting. "We don't think you can do it".

The article that Will posted is great, many LOL's at this bit:

But one thing I do know: Corbyn is incapable of lying to the British people; he is inured to elite politics; he didn’t spend his entire life in a Machiavellian project to gain power and an invitation to Oleg Deripaska’s yacht. That’s why I voted for him and will do so again if you trigger a leadership vote.

I disagree with Corbyn on Trident, on Syria and I would have liked him to demand stronger reforms from Europe. I disagreed with Miliband on a lot more – but I respected him as a politician of principle and the elected leader.

In your minds I suspect some of you crave the emergence of a less slick, more plebeian Blair: somebody to fight populism with populism. The referendum was won by clowns: Boris Johnson and Nigel Farage. If we in Labour want to summon up our own populist clown let’s think hard before doing so. We need a careful process of analysis and rebuilding, based on evidence not hysteria.

Winifred, please take note.

Went for dinner with the wifes brother last night, as I expected he voted out and was having a good laugh about having ago at the Polish and French people at work on Friday.

If nothing else it helped confirm my prejudice that anybody that voted out is a racist cunt.

PR STV MMC in the UK would mean that the Faragists would have a large bloc of seats in the parliament... every cloud has a silver lining...

But srsly though, if that's the price of truer representative democracy, so be it.

It may get ppl to vote more and break the two party system.

This two party shit really doesn't help, it gives smaller parties no chance. The Netherlands and Belgium ain't perfect but coalition governments are normal and opposition is better.

If the Scottish turnout had been equivalent to the Scottish referendum, and the vote ratios been the same then remain would've won.

And yet no one is claiming the SNP - who pulled similar a percentage as Labour - lost the referendum. How odd.

That's the first thing about this sorry affair that has made me genuinely laugh. Chapeau sir.

This week is going to be more mental. Isn't it?

Yup.

To quote one of the above comments, which mirrors a lot of sentiments here:

"If nothing else it helped confirm my prejudice that anybody that voted out is a racist cunt."

And you still don't get it, an that's why you lost.

Never mind, I'm sure the petition or Corybn will make it all better for you. Lol.

Oh they're not all racist, some are sexist or fond of pollution.

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Repped.

Yup, you're making the same point, again and again.

Sooner or later you may realise that the shaming effects of your words are lost.. Then you might win again.

"I'm not interested in facts. I tend to find they cloud my judgement."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4n-UGQcG3Jw

"Our promises were a series of possibilities."

Mendacious lies then.

The only people who think Corbyn connects with the great unwashed of the electorate are the same 'metropolitan elites' (well represented here) that the majority of the country have just stuck two fingers up at. He's the MP for Islington for fuck sake. Get the clown out, and maybe we can have a semblance of an opposition.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ytjN6Qa-Igg

Kinda sums it up. Move on.

And almost 60% of Labour Party members (in 2015)

Sooner or later you may realise that the shaming effects of your words are lost.. Then you might win again.

Sadly, this is probably true. The boundaries of what it is acceptable to say have been moved so far to the right that some people on the hard right don't mind you calling them a racist/fascist - they may even embrace it. Meanwhile less-extreme xenophobia is has been 'normalised'. Overt racists on Twitter are gloating about having shifted the Overton Window.

If I see somebody but the arguments it's all immigration fault that school places are hard to get (school closures) and no social housing (lack of planning) and immigrants get houses like that (sigh) I honest to god despair. It seems the xenophobia of brexit really won.

Is she racist? Perhaps not. She may be shocked if ppl get burn out of their house now. Yes this happens.

Is it useful to call her racist? No. Perhaps the politicians are to blame. But if you vote on a ticket of xenophobia and people are angry, don't vote on a ticket of goddamn xenophobia!

(I can't complain being called names for being a pro-choice atheist either)

johnnyhotdog
Since the referendum polls closed, statistically, 1800 people who >voted to leave have already died of old age.

A decent cold snap last winter could have swung it.

My point was that your humanity appears to have deserted you.

Hitler? The disabled?

What the fuck are you on about?

My point isn't that they don't even have to live with the consequences of >their decision. Over 65's have, roughly on average, 11 years to live with it.

The under 25's have over on average, 60 years to deal with the >consequences.

18-24: 36% - Only 36% of them could be arsed to turn up and vote. The rest either couldn't make it, didn't know or maybe felt too self conscious to go into a polling both and talk to a stranger. The old people know how important a vote is, some of them fought for it. Blaming your elders and wishing a speedy death upon them is why you have to be at least 18 to vote. Maybe your trying to make the point it probably should be 25.

It's not been a "hard right" issue in this case, it's the progressive lefts continual misuse of these words, that has caused this.
As an example, calling out someones choice of vote in the referendum = "racist cunt"

It's a bit like the tick a box meme, "feminist" or "misogynist", no box marked "other"