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Not that they should stop in the ASZ at all...
If they've already passed the first stop line (on a green) and the light turns red before they pass the second stop line then they're perfectly entitled to be in the ASL box.
It's often the result of poor anticipation but sometimes you just get fucked over by the vehicles in front of you.
I notice he had nothing to say about the motorcycle rider who'd stopped past the ASL on a red.