Which Clipless pedals?

I'm currently using LOOK Delta on my road bike and I have a spare set of LOOK Keo pedals that I was going to "upgrade" to.

The difference in weight of the pedals is obviously immense. But other than that, is it worth upgrading? Reading around on the internet seems to say Keo's are harder initially to get in and out of, but more secure when out of the saddle.

Any advances on that?

Cheers.

EDIT:

I have switched and here are my initial thoughts:

• Deltas are easier to get into. I think this is probably because they are heavier, especially on the back.
  
• Keos are easier to walk in.
  
• Keos have a "medium" float as opposed to the loads or none of Deltas.
  
• Keos are lighter.
  
• I haven't really noticed that Keos feel more secure etc. but I sort of thing they are. But the Keos have new as opposed to worn cleats and I now have new shoes with carbon soles... so really any opinion on that is fairly worthless.
  

So I fitted the SPDs today, started out with a low tension and then had to keep turning it up because I had a few un-clips when skidding. I have the tension screw most of the way up and it seems secure when skidding, bit harder to clip into but not impossible. I have the M647 pedals, not the M520s it turns out, with the platform around them, so at least I have some kind of base if I unclip to help me in an emergency.

Definitely going to look into ATACs when I buy the precursa though.

Has anyone used Restraps on the underside of the Shimano M324's?

I'm thinking this might be the solution to the one pair of pedals/different shoes fixeh conundrum as the Restraps won't scrape the ground like cages would when riding on the SPD side. The platform looks a decent width and the holes look big enough to fit the straps through.

Just hoping they come supplied with single as opposed to multi-release cleats as I've read different reports on teh internet.

I recently started using SPD-SL, my first time riding clipless and I'm liking them so far. Had to increase the tension a bit due to unclipping during a particularly radical skid and I'm still getting used to getting in and out but apart from that, all positive so far!

i'm looking to get some atacs, wich ones should i get? there's a lot of difference in price but are they that different?

I am considering the below pedals for my fixie. I want the flexibity of being able to ride clipless as well as with normal shoes!

Anyone tried them??
They seem to have a more generous flat side than the Shimano A530 spd.

[FONT=Trebuchet MS][SIZE=4]eXotic AM-DH Alloy Clipless SPD & Flat One Side Pedals[/SIZE][/FONT]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200820886724?ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1423.l2649#ht_1590wt_1399http://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&mpt=478517http://rover.ebay.com/roverimp/1/710-53481-19255-0/1?ff3=2&pub=5574889051&toolid=10001&campid=5336525415&item=200820886724&mpt=9164340

You need foot retention if you want to ride with normal shoes, so only option is clip and strap, or clipless.

Cheers Ed !

I have a front brake on the bike! I want the flat pedals for the odd ride to the pub.
In all other instances I will be using the SDP clip.

This is my current setup (but using the Shimano A530). I want to move the Shimano A530 to another bike and I wanted to try something different.

I just wanted to see if anyone has tried these pedals/ brand!

Edit: too late.

Depends on number of brakes, he could have two mechanical brakes as well as his fixed wheel.

I wouldn't recommend riding single brake (which you effectively are without foot retention) especially when going for a drink!

I have these on my polo bikes, good for spds and can be used with normal shoes without any trouble:

https://www.google.co.uk/shopping/product/4015860325859901018?q=spd+pedals&client=safari&hl=en&biw=480&bih=268&dpr=2&sa=X&ei=DetfUrr4EIXHsgbTtID4DQ&ved=0CGEQ8wIwAw#hsec:overview

I did see those ones as well. Just fancy the looks of those Exotic AM/DH

Build another bike for the pub, problem solved.

:-)

Are you trying to get me kicked out of the house !

~~Build another bike for the pub, ~~ put a back brake on the fixed, you can not touch it most of the time, but if your front brake cable snaps you've still got a backup, problem solved.

Ftfy

Prolly mentioned something about wearing Time atac cleats on opposite on different feet to be tighter.
Expllain?

The cleats give two possible angles of release, when swapped over you have more float so have to kick out further to release.

ah tidy.
is that how you run yours?

Yup, much prefer it.

I run SPDs on my commuter (single speed) and two road bikes. One of these is an audaxy bike and one's a slightly nicer, lighter alu affair. I'm considering getting a poncey carbon road bike also.

I'm loath to get a completely new pair of shoes, just so I can run "road" clipless pedals on a carbon bike so the cool kids won't laugh at me.

Is there an actual proper reason to do so?

I run SPDs on everything, hack bike, fixed and geared road bikes, crabon race bike.

Hackbike: Shimano Click'r T400 (double sided with reflectors, can easily be ridden in normal shoes)
Other bikes: Shimano PD-M540 or M520.

Can't stand single sided pedals. Stiffer soled shoes solved all hotfoot issues I get on longer rides.

Some people will bang on about the size of the "platform" that the shoe clips in. I can't see the logic in it given that the interface between your foot (with which you are pushing down) and shoe is the footbed of the shoe the size of the cleat doesn't matter as long as the footbed is nice and stiff (I use carbon soled shoes). The pedal/crank interface (i.e. the pedal spindle) is the same size regardless of the size of the cleat and pedal.

I also like being able to walk easily off the bike, which is why I use MTB SPD shoes (Shimano MTB Sport for commuting and MTB Pro Carbon for longer/faster rides).

And I guess you use the same shoes across bikes, which makes it easier as well?

I must say I've never had a problem with hot spots around the actual cleat. I got a couple of painful numb bits at the weekend on a long ride but that was on the tip of my big toe and the outside of the widest part of the foot. I'm sure this is due to the right shoe being a fraction tight.

Is there supposed to be a weight benefit to the road style pedals? I believe Speedplays are meant to be the best but I'm not mad about frigging about with a new system to save 100g or whatever.

Judging by the speedplay thread, they sound like an absolute ballache. SPD-SL are good and cheap.

SPD-SL are probably what I would go with in a road pedal, but I can't understand why I would if I'm happy with SPD.

I was just sanity checking to see if I was missing something really obvious.

In Ned Boutling's How I Won the Yellow Jumper he mentions Chris Boardman laughing at him for turning up with SPDs. I know some roadies look down on them.

New pedals time. Used to use old style Look Keo's but found the cleats wore very quickly, with the stick on rubber bits on the cleat coming off.
Used SPD-SL since and been happy with tension and clear wear, and the cleats are much better for stumbling in and out of the cafe.

Will probably go SPD-SL again, but semi tempted by the Keo Blades. Are the Keo cleats essentially the same (google image search seems to suggest as much) ?

As Shimano? No.

Keo Blades have a poor rep on here: the blades go AWOL at inopportune moments...

The new blades are meant to be better, although still have a tendency to hang upside down.

I like the look of the latest Time Xpresso but Speedplay are the best because reasons.