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dancing james
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Isn't the thing with reach is that... it's measured from the BB center.
Which means that two frames with the same reach will have different 'virtual tts', or 'actual real world reach' if their seat tube angle is different.
Is this what you are referring to as poor frame design?
Also I notice that the chainstay length on the larger frames is slightly longer, so is it possible that the BB is pushed forward to further increase the 'real world reach'?
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Interesting chart +dancing james, it rules out the SuperSix for me then :-(
+Howard Had a Retül bikefit resulting in frame stack/reach 646/409 with a 150mm/-17 stem and 20mm spacers (handlebar stack/reach 689/546).
So, I would really need the reach of the 60cm - but also the stack of the 63 ;-)
Howard
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It's shorter. By 3mm. Which is to say it's not really shorter. It's the same :)
I guess there might be some pragmastism going on there involving the re-use of existing designs and molds, along with a recognition that not many people are shaped to warrant a reach much longer than that of the 60cm.
(and if they are they might do well looking at custom)
That said, the CAAD12 doesn't have that feature in the larger sizes.