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this is a by the by , but
I went down the coast with my mate to help him collect some grappling dummies off a guy who had the brand 'caged' (i think) ,
big, heavy set fella, and I asked if he could fight, he said yes, he went on to tell me about this 'discipline' he said that comes from Spanish gypsies, and the 'initiation' starts by fighting off 10 people , at once , on your own, naturally, I said 'Fuck that'