Are g berthoud better than velo orange or are they pretty much the same?
One is steel, and the other is alu.
Steel is always better as it's stronger, but VO come in a wide range of size and shape.
Cheers yes GB do look better and seem to have better fittings too. Can you get GB in black though?
No sadly, it look weird on my Elephant.
60mm X 700c is massive on it, enough for 50mm 650b tyres
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One is steel, and the other is alu.
Steel is always better as it's stronger, but VO come in a wide range of size and shape.