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Yup, the Large size Canyon has Stack of 579 and Reach of 395, while the Rose 59cm has Stack of 585 and Reack of 401.
So, both pretty comparable, and both roughly similar to my 58 square track frame, with quill stem, but it's obviously hard to have a direct translation.
The brand thing doesn't phase me really, especially as they're both direct purchase German brands! They're probably all coming from the same factory anyway, and it's not as if the Rose is plastered with garish graphics/awful logos.
That said, the Canyon is probably more recognisable, but I'm not sure whether that's a good or a bad thing!
thross
Both have rep for not accepting wider tyres.
@thross have you compared stack and reach of that rose to CF SL? Don't worry too much about 1 1/4 stem; order with one you think would suit, ride and if it doesent get Gian OD2 (£25) and acetone the graphics.
As a brand Rose is a bit German Ribble for me .. Canyon is in line with Rapha (literally now too).