Colnago Owners / Info / Appreciation Thread

Bora One's

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With trackends? Nice.. never seem that before on a X-light.

nope, too small and subtle, please provide an enlarged and clearer picture..

64cm, 1989 Master Piu frame...

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Getting a little bit closer to trying to secure a deal on now what looks to be a pair of C40s but hoping for some forum help to clear up a query I have. Does anybody recognise this fork?

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I don't recognise that fork

U r welkum

Thank you. Aftermarket addition so the frame can be used fixed/SS.

hey guys so a little update on the frame I've purchased. Turns out it weighs about 1.8g, which as far as I know should indicate Mexico status, as I think the Supers are more than 2 (correct me if I'm wrong). Bit confused by this as Saarf indicated he thinks no mexicos had crimped chainstays, and this one seems to. Seems there really is no rhyme or reason to these late 70s & early-mid 80s Colnago frames, often sharing and swapping characteristics of each. Lovely stuff regardless!

post pics, sounds interesting
The point I use for reference is an article written on velobase which discussed the differences between supers and mexicos, and from my own experience of owning 3 mexico versions,
none of them have crimped chain stays
this is the article

"Basically the Merckx Colnago Mexicos (1974-1979) had round superlight main tubes, Sarroni Nuovo Mexicos (1980-1985) crimped top and down tubes, ESA Mexicos (1986-1988) had 6 ribs on main tubes, Zoetemelk Mexico SR/CRs (1985-1986) had a crimped top tube with a 4 rib downtube. FYI: Master with 4 ribs, Tecnos with 5 ribs, Conic with 8 ribs, and Regal (ESA Mexico w/Arabesque lugs) with 6 ribs. The visible difference between 1974-'79 Mexico and 1974-'79 Super is that the Mexico has chainstays that are not crimped at all (round-oval-round). FYI: Masi (round-D-round), De Rosa (round-diamond-round). Note that the timelines are for the USA."

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the forks are not Colnago, Mexico decal looks like it's been added later, if
you go by the above article, it must be an early 80's Super frame

mexico decal has indeed been added later, as it's been restored. forks are not colnago, nope, they're columbus NOS w campy dropouts

what do you say re the 1.8 weight then Saarf? pretty sure the supers are all above 2kg

i read some where mexicos were just under 1.8 , who knows for sure
only real way to confirm weights is against factory specs, eg catalogs
people can write anything on the web

this thread refers to a mexico being 1.85 kg in the catalog

Is that including the fork? I recently weighed mine, which I believe is an early 80s super (with fork), and it weighed just a few grams under 2 kg.

that thread you refer to up there saarf as being 1.85 is pretty much what this frame weighs.

@xrayspex no this is without fork, frame only

i;d say it's a super

even though it weighs what a mexico should weigh? or based purely on the chainstay theory?

either way I'm all good, happy as a clam with this frame. bloody beaut

the lower rear stays have a crimp/groove on the inside plus the wording COLNAGO inscribed could contribute to the frame being a MEXICO?

I think that is also true. don't think the Supers had both this inscription and the interior groove along the stays

no mexico has interior stay grooves, the weight is of the frame, with original forks it would be more than 1.8kg
super frame and forks 2kg
mexico frame and forks 1.85kg
"It has been noted that there have been fake Merckx Mexicos which were actually Supers with chainstay crimps being filled in with automotive body filler and repainted. Repainted frames are usually fakes, damaged, or undocumented originals. Always start with the fake frame and let the seller prove it is real or undamaged and that it is not stolen."

I recently weighed mine, which I believe is an early 80s super (with fork), and it weighed just a few grams under 2 kg.

super frame and forks 2kg
mexico frame and forks 1.85kg

These must be the weights for frame only. The Super is Columbus SL which is around 2,000g for a frame. So the Mexicos are of thinner gauge tubing than SL?

weights must be for f&f , as you say, you weighed yours at 2kg, think mexicos would have thinner gauge tubing
also the frame in question is early eighties, the only mexico then was the nuovo mexico, which had crimped tt and dt