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  • Seconded.

    Waffer thin top where exposed to elements. Cardboard thick palms that don't need wind protection.

    Tempted to wear mine on opposite hands with the grip palm facing up.

  • They're great as a bridge between mitts and proper gloves, but don't work as liners at all.

    Edit : also much better if you have warm arms, I used them for indoor skiing and with a Down jacket they were warm enough

    Re amfibs, maybe a newer version thing, but I found them fine for flexibility. (obviously less so than lycra, but not enough to complain about)

  • Must be my epic thighs.

    To be honest they're a foot too long for me. So maybe the areas designed to flex aren't lining up for me.

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