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Seconded.
Waffer thin top where exposed to elements. Cardboard thick palms that don't need wind protection.
Tempted to wear mine on opposite hands with the grip palm facing up.
Smallfurry-
They're great as a bridge between mitts and proper gloves, but don't work as liners at all.
Edit : also much better if you have warm arms, I used them for indoor skiing and with a Down jacket they were warm enough
Re amfibs, maybe a newer version thing, but I found them fine for flexibility. (obviously less so than lycra, but not enough to complain about)
branwen
I didnt even put any gloves on till last thursday! Think ill send them back, the ones I have, have a small hole in them but theyll keep me warmer than these will