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Ah, all good info.
It just occured to me - would front shifting be significantly affected if I get a Force 22 crankset and reuse the Sram rings with 6800 rather than going to Praxis rings? It'll be no issue to me just adding the Praxis rings to the P2M order...or is there a compatibility issue with P2M and the hidden fifth bolt?
Oh, OK. I'm sure I've seen them for sale complete with ring and BB in the past for crazy cheaps: probably unboxed OEM takeoffs.
@mishmash11 the new gen Rival cranks have the same detachable spider interface so they would be a goer too. Not significantly porkier than the carbon force cranks despite being solid om-nom style forged arms. There's a GXP version for sale in the classifieds now.