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  • Didn't get a charity place for London but the charity had spare places for Brighton. Awaiting the confirmation that I'm in there, shouldn't be any reason not to except for the 360 people who also got the same "sorry you didn't get a charity place" email all doing the same thing.

    If I don't get this (relevant) charity place then one of the parents at school was looking for someone to take a Brighton place for a different charity (not so relevant but still a good cause).

    Daunting is an understatement. Now I just have to be 76kg by April, not the current 88kg.

  • Now I just have to be 76kg by April, not the current 88kg.

    Surely being prepared for 26.2 is more important than hitting the weight target? I appreciate one may bring the other...

  • Currently sitting in a B&B in Llanberis stuffing my face with fizzy pop and chocolate and getting more and more nervous about Snowdon Marathon tomorrow. At least we've got some proper wet and windy weather forecast.

    I'm running well at the moment, so my cunning plan is to sit on the lead woman's shoulder, ensuring maximum TV exposure and the hope that she drags me along to a 3:10 ish finish :D

  • Pete's Eats in Llanberis is well worth a visit to refuel. Enormous portions.

    Good luck with the race!

  • Anyone fancy a pair of nearly new* Adidas Adios Boost 2 (UK9.5)

    They have the word BOOST in the model name and have been worn by many an elite marathon runner. They also look pretty cool.

    Seem to go for £75 new online, so £45 posted?

    *1x 10mile run

  • Similarly to @Jones up there I am running a marathon tomorrow, albeit Beachy Head not Snowdon.

    Going to fare rather badly I think. If I can break 3:45 again I'll be happy with that. Last distance race for the foreseeable.

  • Parkrun this morning - slower than a midweek tempo run.

    Something isn't going right, even accounting for stopping for a minute with a stitch.

  • Well another Snowdon done and dusted, felt terrible for the first half but got a bit better after that. A new marathon pb so I can't be too disappointed 3:13:36 so over a minute quicker than my previous pb. Mrs Jones had a tough time of it, 5 minutes slower than last year but winning her age category cheered her up :)

    Think it's beer time now :)

  • Top work.

    Can anyone recommend a website with a list of upcoming races, preferably in map form?

  • Great site, thanks!

  • Working my way through this fat fuelling process on the Maffetone 2 week test. day 10 with no carbs and am running an avg of 13:30 min/miles on the treadmill to stay under my 141 HR aerobic limit but it's actually enjoyable and I've lost at least 5lbs.

    starting to think how I progress after the 2 weeks are up as long term this low hr training isn't for me, I don't want to be fast in 2 years, I want to be fast in 6 months so i'll be using some of the nutritional stuff I've learnt but adding in good carbs to allow me to do some HIIT training as well as the slow stuff once I re-start hansons in december.

    having decided that phil maffetone was a bit too "carbs are the devil, carb fuelled running is unpossible" kind of preachy I saw a recommendation for another book by the worlds leading 1000 mile race runner called Slow Burn which also covers this topic so I bought that for reading.

    on reading this morning the foreword is by anthony 'i make millions off idiots' robbins which immediately set alarm bells ringing and 3 chapters in it is literally nothing but complete and utter new age bullshit. I went back to the amazon reviews (I think I'd read the US ones before purchasing, stupid stupid stupid) and the top critical UK review says

    The writing in this is an acquired taste. Let me give you a taster:
    "In your MAP zone, there is a crystalline quality to the sounds around you, as though they are suspended all about you with silent spaces in between, waiting for you radar to pick them up."
    I found this more like a new-age self help book, which definitely wasn't for me. I thought it might pick up once it got the the actual running and aerobic zone stuff, which seemed to be forever coming, but the above paragraph was the straw that broke the camels back and I didn't even go on.

    well that's 6 quid wasted then.

  • don't know if it works but I read racing weight by matt fitzgerald, and after one week of applying the principles (as I understood them) it has made precisely f-all difference, but it advocates a long term healthy diet (whole grains, fruit, nuts, eggs, low fat proteins etc.) fuelled by nutrient dense foods with carbs of around 60% of diet coming from whole grain carbs. it talks about working out Base metabolic rate and using that plus activity to dictate how much food you eat, and implies that eating slightly less will give you long term steady weight loss down towards the suggested body fat targets for your age and sport aspirations.

    Most of it makes sense, although there are quite a few sections where he suggests an approach and then goes on to completely contradict himself without a satisfactory explanation about when and how often to apply either theory or practice.

    It is quite motivational and generally engagingly written, suggesting things that I already know (i.e. that even if you are running a big calorie deficit it still isn't the best idea to shove in an entire cake) but its useful to hear it and have a book sitting by me when I think about visiting the work vending machine, so worth a read.

    It isn't going to get you mega quick results but if you are committed then it will deliver results in broad terms and allow you to train properly towards your marathon targets, without the huge crashes and gorging that I usually get when trying to train and follow conventional "diets"

  • Well done to all the marathon runners this weekend - I'd looooove to do Beachy Head, what a great place.

    I discovered yesterday that a pre-run franco manca pizza is not a good idea. Still, it was extremely delicious so it's not a mistake I hugely regret.

  • Have you read Goacher, The Art of Running Faster? Not so much about diet, but going quicker...

  • I've just spent a bit of time on the Phil Maffetone website after finishing Natural Born Heros by Chris McDougall. Don't find it too preachy and was thinking of doing the 2 week test as well. You say you've lost 5lb, can I ask what you weight was to start with and how the exercise made you feel if you went over the aeorobic HR limit?

  • Great time for a very lumpy marathon!

  • Brilliant, thank you.

  • Feels a little dated in the diary advice but yeah, of course being lighter will give you an advantage if you manage to maintain the same condition.

    http://www.runningforfitness.org/faq/we

  • I've just spent a bit of time on the Phil Maffetone website after finishing Natural Born Heros by Chris McDougall. Don't find it too preachy and was thinking of doing the 2 week test as well. You say you've lost 5lb, can I ask what you weight was to start with and how the exercise made you feel if you went over the aeorobic HR limit?

    He just seems completely dismissive of any other kind of training or its benefits and only focuses on aerobic training.

    this article I just read http://strengthrunning.com/2015/02/maffetone-method-and-base-training/ sums up a lot of my own concerns about his approach (and the other guys book)

    that said I have noticed a general improvement in my well being since doing the 2 week test (day 11/14 today) but that is largely down to me having a very poor diet before this.

    my takeaway (pun unintended) from it is I should look at drastically reducing my carb intake especially from crappy junk food and restructure my diet in a way that I get enough carbs in my regular diet to train at my easy paces but without going ott and then making sure I eat enough carbs to fuel before/replenish after a hard session but not in the old way where I ate all the carbs and then ate even more after a hard session because carbs = running.

    I think now I'll stick with a high fat & protein diet and look to add in small servings of carbs from natural sources (limiting sugars still almost completely) to meals when I start marathon training mid dec and see how I cope with the runs. until then I'll keep doing the low-intensity stuff as the best thing for me at the moment is to drop as much baggage as possible before the runs get longer.

    in terms of weight I was a shade over 17st when I started (not running over the spring/summer piled on over a stone & a half with my previous 'runners diet') but i had already lost a few lbs from calorie counting in a couple of weeks before the 2w test so it wasn't just the first week drop you start dieting. plus I'm still eating 2000+ calories a day whereas i'd aim for 1600 on calorie counting.

    as for going over the HR limit, i've not tried it. but I ran up 2 sets of escalators yesterday in moorgate station and felt a little lightheaded at the top.

  • felt a little lightheaded at the top.

    I think you may have starved your brain of oxygen a little too long

    pun unintended

  • Thanks, the strength running article made sense and had a few good arguments. I've lost weight throughout this year by improving my diet, reducuing sugar and upping protein. I don't run long distances (5-10k only at the moment) but was looking at the fat as fuel aspect for riding to see if I could increase endurance more than anything.

  • What are people's thoughts on weighted training?

    A lot of my marathon training over winter will be in early mornings, so would like to use my backpack to carry extra layers. Is there much benefit in packing another couple of kg, or will it probably affect form?

  • I'd try to minimise extra weight, particularly in a backpack, as it will both be uncomfortable and affect form.

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