Car appreciation... the aesthetics, the engineering, etc

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  • The aching want.

  • I rather like those. There's a lot of really nice Pinifarina lines disguised by some clumsy sharp angles.
    The front is a bit meh, but it's basically an updated Daytona.
    It's not hard to imagine a skilled coachbuilder could turn one of those into something very beautiful indeed.

    Mind you a 456 is faster, newer, prettier, and generally cheaper.

  • pretty much every car he likes is a money pit, it's just his taste...

  • what about a roller, niall? an early silver shadow or equiv bentley - i reckon they'd be great to own. probably spendy though

  • a 240z?

  • It is known as character ;) actually he hasn't stuck a TVR on the list.

  • How about a cheapish RX8, preferably with a recent engine rebuild, thrash is it till it goes pop.

    You have owned a wankel engined car.

  • They were neither money pits or what ever. The H van will be more family oriented. This came from the Luberon, very solid and still had the french CT.
    I grew up around more usual performance and vintage cars, I guess I found them boring. There are more Lister Jaguars, Bugattis and even D type Jaguars than there are that red Mazda. Having driven My fathers cars, including Ac Ace, Hwm etc I can say that they are great buy id rather change gear at 9000 rpm than enjoy the torque of a big old 6.


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  • H vans are shit, I hate H vans. Why people thing they make great vans to sell pancakes sorry crepes.

    At a guess you have the english parts diagrams.

  • No, although they are nice, I used to drive dads e30 m3 when i had just passed my test. We had a 240z race car ex Samuri racing. Rust makes cars rare. When I found solid cars then I bought them. Lace work is for people with serious issues or more time on thier hands than they should.
    Rotary motors are just increadable, unless you have had a heavily ported 13b running through a Weber Ida then you have sadly missed out. An example of one is below. Running efi though but similar.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W2kJ0WinbkM

    The link might work.

  • 550 Maranello (how much are they now anyway?) Last saw one stuck in a snowdrift in Sedona, AZ. Some old boy had taken it our for a spin in a blizzard. Sounded marvelous. 456s are lovely, understated Fezzas, I had a mate with a midnight blue one years ago. Classy. If I ever get enough disposable cash, I'd have a red Testarossa in a heartbeat, sexiest back end on a car ever. I suspect values will explode in the not too distant - a couple of years back you could buy nice ones in the US for USD50k.

    Oh and XJ12C instead of XJS.

  • and might be a bit chestwig for London but 1970 Camaro split bumper....a very pretty car once you bin all the boy racer bits.

  • Continuing the Quattroporte meme, the first of the new gen ones are getting cheap...one of the nicest saloon body shapes in years and they sound epic.

    http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2005-MASERATI-QUATTROPORTE-AB4-S-A-GREY-STUNNING-WITH-PRIVATE-PLATE-TAN-LEATHER-/301750561913?hash=item4641bc2c79

  • What estate could I replace the Volvo with?

  • Jaguar?

  • If I get a new car it'd be a Tesla estate, for now I'm only considering older stuff.

  • What could/would go wrong with that Maserati?

    I once met a man who paid £20k for a 3200GT from a main dealer with a year warranty. It was probably about 5 years old I think. In the warranty year it had £14k worth of repairs. He didn't keep it beyond that.

  • if i was to wire up 2 or 3 old spotlights, to run off a battery, what wire would i use?

  • Aston Lagonda?

  • I really want a 2007 RS4 Avant. I almost bought one on a whim instead of my M135. I just love the stupidity of them. MPG killed it for me though the V8 is just too damn thirsty.. Maybe one day when i don't have to commute so far.

    How much would you sell the Volvo for?

  • Also, whilst on the subject. Paul Newmans old Volvo 960 with a supercharged Ford 5.0 V8 crate motor was on an episode of chasing classic cars the other day. Was awesome. One of the best sleepers ever.

  • Following the Newman recipe...there's an article up on the Selvedge yard about his VW beetle sleeper with a V8 in the boot.

  • Hands off, it's mine first.

    You can't ever sell it, @Dammit you've sunk too much money into it.

  • I was thinking about that whilst walking to work this morning.

    As I think I've said before, I'd probably prefer to "lend" the Volvo to someone, then at least I (on paper at least) still have the result of the thousands that I've sunk into the car - looking at it, probably well over £20,000 on top of the purchase price if I include everything.

    I try to avoid calculating how much I've spent on it, for obvious reasons.

    I just have a slight itch for something new. In an ideal world something small but that I could still go somewhere with the bike and some luggage, as contradictory as that sounds.

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