Hoke's L96

Haha, @spotter would probably agree I have a different dictionary for budget/beater.

Though I think the plan for now to get me back on the track is to get reasonable track bike with decent parts then upgrade to a better frameset later on or as @8bits said a coach.

So we have two options really now:

• BMC TR02
  
  

or

• Hoy Fiorenzuola .002
  
  

Purely because of the Dura Ace components

#ShimanoFanBoy

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Really like the Hoy, bargain too!

http://m.evanscycles.com/products/hoy/fiorenzuola-002-2015-track-bike-ec072476

I'd take the Boardman with Omniums over the Hoy with DA.

DA>omnom

Techinally, this is probably "cheap" to you.

Good component mean when the nice frame arrived, it's a direct swap.

http://www.evanscycles.com/products/hoy/fiorenzuola-002-2015-track-bike-ec072476

You're right, look great, great value and in his sizes.

http://www.halfords.com/cycling/bikes/road-bikes/boardman-tk-pro-road-bike

Might be too cheap for him to justified tho...

CAAD 10 Track?

The geo on Hoy is a tad strange though, I'm a XS on their website.

This!

The only thing that is decent on that bike for value for money is the crackset, the rest is very debatable.

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Can you find your dictionary and read the descripton for "cheap" is?

You wanna start training, get a cheap bike and trash it while waiting for your not so cheap bike, it might be months as the 2015 stocks is going down and 2016 is hardly here yet.

For some people yes, but the slopping negative tube top isn't really my thing nor the colour scheme =/

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Vigorelli Caleido:

http://www.velodromeshop.net/index.php?p=product&id=2383

You get to choose your own components and leave out anything you don't want.

If you were going to frame only route , Condor Lavaro for sure... Such class , vaiiii nice ride ...

From my experience cheap is cheap for a reason, I do like the idea of getting a bike and just riding it, but from years of experience I usually have to replace it and eventually upgrade the components (for examples, wheels, crankset, chain and bar)

I rather get a decent bike that I know that will last longer than bike that will probably end up costing me buck and trouble. (And this is a personal thing, even though we say we love to get a cheap bike to ride, if it doesn't make you feel special when riding it then what's the point of getting one in the first place)

Will I need these when riding it?

Plus isn't there like a really bad rep for buying anything at Velodromeshop?

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They are really nice to ride, (test ridden one last year and probably a decent upgrade/replacement if I crack my new frameset/bike.

But for now I think I am going to have to get new a complete track bike, as the only thing I have left in the flat is my pro vibe stem and bars.

I think the reason I like the Hoy so much is it looks just very understated but purposeful, great spec as well for the price, most of the parts would be worth of a posh frame. Although not ridden one I'm sure it will be decent.

Cheap aren't always cheap for a reason, it's a track bike, as long it's build correctly, it should be perfectly functional.

Indeed.

I'll pop down to Evans Cycles next week and ask for a test ride for both bikes (Hoy and BMC) to see which I prefer and then see what will happen from there. Thanks for everyone's help peps.

You said reasonable track bike with decent part after all.

£400-500 does get you exactly the above.

The Hoy seemed like a direct swap as all the component is bang on tread for an exclusive looking track bike.

Ignore them all, Ho. Just get the carbon BMC.

Carbon or GTFO.

Obviously he needs a custom FES with Mavic iO and rear disc.

How is that going to work?