Which Tyres?

How long do Open Pave's last people?
In comparison to say GP4000 or other popular tyres I might have tried?

6000 for a front
4000 for a back

Cheers very much. Sounds like they'll do.

Thanks

that's miles.

Wider tyres = last longer too.

Out of curiosity, why the hatred for light butyl tubes? I've got them in 2 sets of wheels (Conti Supersonics), they've given no problems and are a cheap way to save about 50g a wheel.

Haven't ridden a winter in the UK yet. Will Challenge Paris Roubaix or Open Pave just be plain stupid to use? Won't mind tyres getting dirty, but will I be standing roadside, angry and frustrated?
In DK I would have gone for Durano Plus or GP4000 with anti puncture belt (don't know the correct term).

I did all of last winter on Paves, think I got 2 punctures? On really shitty Chilterns roads. For me an occasional puncture is worth feel + grip of a decent tyre over something more puncture resistant.

Riding where? Mainly urban roads, country lanes or a mix of both?

Open Pave will do pretty much everything and are pretty fast. I don't bother with anything else in the winter.

In other news - I borrowed a wheel from my girlfriends bike this morning because I was running late and couldn't be arsed to fix the puncture in mine. It had a Rubino on. Awful tyres, even in the dry I could feel it squirming around and christ they're slow. I used to ride them all the time too.
#princess

Well 50-100km countryside with occasional country lanes. But during winter I normally stay on tarmac.

I will probably give PR a go..

Isn't the puncture protection a bit shit on the Challenge PR's?

Dunno. I wouldn't ride Open Paves in the winter in DK, but if you wouldn't mind doing it in the UK, I guess I see no reason for not giving the Challenges a go. Weird logic perhaps. I just thought puncture protection would be the same, as they seem to have similar weight, thread pattern and size.

PR: 300 tpi, 27mm, 285g,
OP: 320, 27mm, 285g,

The lower tpi on the PR suggest to me that, although not a lot, sidewalls will be tougher. And they state: "Road / Cobble / Gravel Racing / Big Riders" Which sounds like me

Life is too expensive for fast tyres*

*in anything except races

Butyl for everything*

*except races

No, but I would like to. Their 25mm are nice so I don't see why the 28mm wouldn't be nice also.

Caught in a trap...

Winter tyres typically being so reliable I tend to ride them through two years before thinking I should change them for something else...

No, latex is more porous or something and lets more air out. That's one reason they're stupid for commuting on. Anyone telling you otherwise is a #buyer with more cash and time than smarts.

Factor in his username is 'skinny' and then lose about 1000mi off each of those values if you're more like 90kg.

They don't roll as well as latex and they are far more susceptible to punctures.

I've used a lot of these bad boys recently becoming a bit slack on my patching pile...
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Commuting or racing/training? For me, not having to get covered in shit whilst repairing flats in the pissing rain outweighs any tyre feel advantage.

Once again, factor in @umop3pisdn weighs as much as Hoy's left leg so his durability statements need to be adjusted if you're a heavier lump of human.

Oh hai hippy. Replies all

I'm a 90kg sort-of sprinter - last year I got similar mileage to @skinny on my pave's. Bombproof until they go.. and then it's flatflatflatflatflatflat.