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  • @Greenbank I think that the thing that puts me off most is the late afternoon start. If it started in the morning I don't think that I would be so bothered by it. I probably will end up doing it. People yesterday seemed to think that the riding on our Welsh ride was harder than that encountered on PBP so maybe all would be well.

    @hippy, I think I am too swayed by the cake at the stops. I almost never don't stop for half an hour or so. I also couldn't have ridden yesterday's hills any quicker. For the first time yesterday I was coming up a hill with both thighs cramping wondering exactly how the rest of the day was going to pan out. I almost never get cramp.

  • Isn't there a 84h Randonneur group that starts the next day? Obviously less time to ride, but potentially cutting out the first overnighter.

  • There is, but I have read horror stories that there is no cake left by the time that group starts. Up with that I cannot put.

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