Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

Headtube badge looks to be earlier than 70's - probably more like 50's / 60's
There are a few similarities with a Dawes that I previously owned (Frame# P4211)
Pedalroom
Build Thread Here has more photos
Additional verification - Here's some info on V3557 too
http://www.bikeforums.net/classic-vintage/110724-help-identifying-old-dawes.htm
Here's another that looks similar with pump pegs under the TT

Thanks for the detailed reply Rik, lots of useful info, looks like this one will remain a mystery, I was going to sell it but having ridden it for a few days it's growing on me... time to cull something else from the herd!

That's absolutely not 100% made of MAX tubing. The top tube should be bi-axially ovalised like the downtube if it were MAX. Probably a tubing mix because the chainstays look like MAX. Downtube looks bi-axially ovalised aswell... maybe the builder used the top tube as a downtube?

Any ideas on the frame builder anyone?
Frame Number, "AD48"(http://i.ebayimg.com/00/s/NjQwWDQ4MA==/z/iXgAAOSwNSxVL~jV/$_57.JPG)

Got this Vagacini, frame only. No info in Google. Is it really Columbus Thron tubing? DT is oval. there are no info on dropouts, the only stamp is on BB: C 326.
It clearly is a racing frame, because there are no bosses present. Paintjob is poor around openings and dropouts. I wish to braze bosses for mudguards, rear rack and water bottle - would I be ruining the frame?

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Looks low end but interesting. Possibly sun - I've seen the chain stay braces on them - Manx or Manxman but not seen the triple triangle on them

I've had this frame for about 3 years now and I have absolutely loved riding it. I bought it off a clubmate who had imported it from the U.S. 5 or so years previously. He bought it as a Serotta Legend Ti and I've always assumed it was.

My curiosity was picqued by the Serotta thread on the Paceline forum so I thought I'd find out a bit more about it,and in doing so, I'm not sure sure it is a Serotta. (I've just been informed it's definetly/probably not)

I don't mind what the frame is, but I would like to know who built it and find out what it's story is.

The album for the bike is here -

https://www.flickr.com/gp/96979340@N04/eo02P5

The measurements are -

1" steerer
HT - 19cm
TT - 60.5cm
ST - 62cm

All measurements are CTT.

The serial number is I1307 and its stamped on the bottom of the drive side drop out.

Any help on this would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers

Rob

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sorry i think my post go lost as a reply for someone else's thing - any guesses at all?

i know they are japnese - c. 70s / 80s i think, came off a miyata

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cinelli pepper at a guess

Answered my own question - just discovered my frame is a Clark - Kent

Can anybody identify this bike please?

There's a serial number on the frame and some bronze coloured lines in a rectangular shape but presumably these could've been added as part of a re-paint?
Sorry I can't add any more details - I'm not very well versed in describing bikes.
Many thanks,
Steve

I just bought this off ebay with the aim of getting it working well enough to use at L'Eroica GB.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-BSA-Tandem-/291452364368?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_3&hash=item43dbea2650

It's not too far off - a few seized nuts here and there, but it goes OK. The headset looks like it is missing a locknut - certainly quite loose - picture below.

Googling around - finding some good info including on here - anyone know if this is a Brampton headset? Other possibility is Chater-Lea. And would a locknut from a 1 1/8" threaded headset fit on it?

Update --

Tandem Club said:

Your headset looks very much like a Brampton clamp type. There are a
couple of issues I have noted. 1) The handlebar stem looks like it is
a 7/8" solo stem. How is this held in place in what you think is an
oversize fork column. Has it been sleeved ?. 2) The balls and the race
should not be showing as in your picture. I believe the wrong size
bearing races and balls have been fitted. The top race should fit into
the frame and be parallel with the top lug. There should be 23 3/16"
balls in the top race. This is assuming you can confirm that you have
an 1 1/8 head clamp. Chater Lea did make a head clamp of similar
design but in solo dimensions.

I've measured the OD of the threaded steerer, and it looks like it is 27.5mm - 28mm, which suggests it is a 1 1/8" headset... Handily, Tandem Club also said:

We do sell locknuts to fit a fork column with an outside diameter of 1
1/8" or 27.5 mm. The thread is "British Standard Cycle Thread". The
nuts are finished in a highly polished chrome. They are £12.00 each
plus £2.50 p&p.

Update, 18 June -- just in case anyone finds this in future! Swapping the ball bearings as described by Tandem Club worked a treat. The threads on the steerer were knackered so I got it rethreaded - top tip is that Decathlon have a 1 1/8" thread cutter at all their stores - cost less than £3 in the end! (but took me ages to discover that...) and then finally the locknut from Tandem club did fit and I could use that to pull the headset tight - then tighten the pinch bolt to secure the stem

Still dunno what make headset it is, though! The bike is a BSA from 1937 so it might just be an in-house BSA headset?

Does anyone here nows how to date a (probably early eighties) Francesco Moser? I would like to find out what year this one is from:

If you think the gruppo mounted on it is original Wim, look at the rear mech, it should have a patent number and and the last two digits of the year produced-i have some NR rear mechs dating from '72-'82 according to pat no., this could give a rough estimation of frame age

Thanks. Everything on the bike is original (according to the previous owner - he was the first owner too) and the rear mech was the first thing I checked but it only says "Patent", no year of production. Frame must be post '78 because it has the "Superprestige Pernod"-decal on it, which Moser won in 1978.

no doubt you gave it a proper look over
this is an '83

this just say patent, not pat, and is purported to be '66

i'm no campagnologist, others here are and may shed more light, but it seems like you've got the bikes date nailed on

Another question. ;-)

I recently got a Concorde Colombo (I only wanted the DA-groupset that was on it) but I have my doubts about it being a Colombo.

After searching the internet, I learned the Colombo model was a rather low end model and practically every hit mentioned it being made from Aelle tubing. But mine has a 27.2 diameter seatpost. Am I correct that Aelle can't come with a 27.2 seatpost diameter?

Brian Oblivion, er, Sheldon Brown says 26.8 but there's some bikes with 27.2, though this is rarer.

So, I suppose it's best to ask another Colombo owner that seatpost they take and what identification (serial, BB type) it has?

Isn't DA on a low end model unusual?

Thanks for the information.

DA on low end is unusual, indeed. But with a bike that's approx. 30 years old, strange things can happen. I've seen DA 11 speed on Aelle frames here on the forum, you know. ;-)

I'm about to dismantle it completely and I hope frame weight brings some more indirect information. But I suspect it to be resprayed because under the black paint of the fork, there's shiny chrome.

I believe some tubes have rifling that identifies them, a happy evening reading online awaits you :)

Pinned lugs is another token, small batch Italian builders tended to use these. Of course aelle is still possible then but it may give hints too if its not a Concorde after all

I don't want to count the nights I've been reading online so far...

What do you exactly mean with "pinned" lugs?

Any pics? I have an Aelle Colombo, 26.8 seat tube. Happy to compare.

As others have said, Aelle is almost always 26.8

http://www.classiclightweights.co.uk/builders/frame-pinning-builders.html

You'll see this in the BB area, if it's done that way. In my 1978 Ciocc you can see remnants of the pins.

@Engineering101 I'll post some pictures tonight or tomorrow (I'm off cycling this afternoon ;-)), thanks for the offer to compare.

@JWestland thanks for the link, interesting site.