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• #34977
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• #34978
Everything aggi said really and also I'm quite surprised that (according to that article) currently you can't use agency workers as replacements - what do you do? Pay extra time to existing workers?
Out of all the negative tory policies that you could argue against this seems pretty sensible in principle imo. Obviously the devil is in the detail and whether anything else is slipped though.
What business is it of yours about another person's relationship with their employer?
Another random person who's work doesn't impact me and isn't payed for by the public? None at all. But this change is in relation to "key" public services. Isn't it?
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• #34979
Pay extra time to existing workers?
Duh... of course not cus they would be on strike!
The really important point about this is that 'Key' workers like firefighters and nurses
won't stop working even if they are in conflict with their employers because they are not arseholes who are simply in it for the money.They are workers like all others who are subject to being abused under their employment contracts.
When they feel they are being treated unfairly do you expect them to let people die while they strike?
Thats what tories do to people, not firefightersand nurses
I love the fact that you think an agency worker can just step in while these people are on strike.
You must be a proper turd.
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• #34980
No, I actually voted Green (despite my massive concerns about Bennett's ability to string a sentence together). Given I work as a lawyer in biodiversity conservation it is where I tend to end up. Just because I happen to disagree with you on the striking point, doesn't make me a Tory, and I hope doesn't make you want me to choke. There are various policies throughout all of the parties I agree with and disagree with, politics isn't just black and white. I work bloody hard to bring the government to account on its woeful record on forestry/conservation/clean air, and it's pretty soul destroying to find such a lack on the Left of people willing to put across coherent arguments without resorting to bullying and abuse. You call Tories the nasty party - look at your posts. I cannot tell you how ineffective you are when you just shout abuse. The Tories got a majority - calling everyone cunts isn't going to do anything about that. Stop crying about it and help those of us who are actually trying to do something to rectify the damage.
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• #34981
^Fuck off you cunt.
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• #34982
@Ratty, well said. The way the left is being represented on this thread is pretty depressing.
You disagree with me? You're a cunt and I hope you choke.
This kind of divisive self righteousness is partly why labour lost the election. The rural working classes voted for UKIP and the Tories because they are sick of this metropolitan snobbery.
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• #34983
Duh... of course not cus they would be on strike!
Only the members of the union(s) who elected to go on strike would be on strike. The other workers would be obliged to turn up, wouldn't they?
Edit - I meant could work the extra, not be obliged to!
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• #34984
Confused workplace history - astounding
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• #34985
Exactly the kind of thing a cunt would say.
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• #34986
The Tories got a majority
24.9% of the electorate.
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• #34987
The only thing that we should communicate to them is the starting date of the strike.
This.
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• #34988
Only ~42% of the electorate voted for something other than the Tories.
(Likewise ~46% of the electorate voted for something other than Labour.)
(Stats abuse with low turnout elections is fun.)
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• #34989
There is a lot of depressing material around, passive traitors and idiots who can see only two inches far from their cock, for start.
"You're a cunt an I hope you die" comes from what the tories are keep on doing!! Which seems to be tightening the rope around the neck to those who can barely survive to make the rich just richer.
They servants must die as well!
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• #34990
oh god
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• #34991
A good tory should say "oh economy"
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• #34992
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• #34993
Duh... of course not cus they would be on strike!
The really important point about this is that 'Key' workers like firefighters and nurses won't stop working even if they are in conflict with their employers because they are not arseholes who are simply in it for the money.
They are workers like all others who are subject to being abused under their employment contracts.
When they feel they are being treated unfairly do you expect them to let people die while they strike?
Thats what tories do to people, not firefightersand nurses
I love the fact that you think an agency worker can just step in while these people are on strike.
You must be a proper turd.
Thanks for the helpful comments to my question about using agency workers / how you fill a shortfall during a strike.
Surely in key public sector areas agency workers are used anyway? I know a large number of NHS admin for eg are agency workers. So say with nurses, I'd have thought you do have well qualified agency nurses who for whatever reason aren't permanent NHS nurses but could step into certain roles. My question stands are there actually rules preventing the use of them in all cases at the moment?
I'm also a bit confused how you can say that no existing workers can be used because they're all on strike, but yet at the same time say that they don't stop working?
Again I was more curious as to how work was covered if you can't (assuming it's true) bring in outside workers?
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• #34994
Wait 'til you've got agency firefighters covering your local watch, then get back to me...
PS Get a smoke alarm...
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• #34995
kim jong un executes his defence chief ... with anti aircraft gun
better than being torn apart by wild dogs i guess
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• #34996
^ Isn't most news from North Korea sourced from one agency in South Korea, which allegedly just makes shit up?
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• #34997
No.
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• #34998
That one is, but not all of them. The one about them discovering unicorns living in a cave under a waterfall came straight out of North Korea
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• #34999
they only make up the stories that can neither be proved nor disproved
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• #35000
No it's not, it came from Seoul's National Intelligence Service who reported it to the South Korean Parliament. Last time I checked NIS are not a news agency.
There's so much bullshit around North Korea, can we not add to the pile please.
Most of this stuff is impossible to verify given it allegedly happened in NK, but Hyon was (allegedly) executed at a firing range at the Kanggon Military Training Area, north of Pyongyang.
The U.S.-based Committee for Human Rights in North Korea said last month that, according to satellite images, the range was likely used for an execution by ZPU-4 anti-aircraft guns in October. The target was just 30 metres (100 feet) away from the weapons, which have a range of 8,000 metres.
The only thing that we should communicate to them is the starting date of the strike.