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Ratty

Member since Mar 2013 • Last active Sep 2018
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    A mob is a large and perhaps disorderly crowd. It is a description not a term of abuse.

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    I agree the BBC is terrible. I loathe the institution and resent paying for the drivel that it is currently producing and the absurd salaries it pays utterly incompetent people. I just don't think the footage in question warranted some ridiculous petition and yet another volley of abuse.

    The results can be spun whichever way you want - every party in the country claimed it was a success for them! Corbyn said Labour 'clung on'. Great. That's inspiring stuff in the current climate.

    'Mob' might not have been the best word - it was more a word to represent their abusive behaviour than their size. Corbyn supporters were indeed a majority of Labour members when he was elected. Those who supported him however represent just over 2% of the people that voted Labour in the last general election. Just because Corbyn has the support of 250k members (35% of whom were the £3 sign-up and vote type) doesn't mean he will attract broad support where it matters.

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    I really don't get the Corbyn mob. They appear completely unable to accept any kind of criticism without resorting to abuse and fucking petitions. Have any of them actually watched the BBC footage in question? It is merely a discussion about the results of the elections.

    The results for Labour were appalling by anyone's standards. Labour were obliterated in Scotland and finished in third. Corbyn became the first opposition leader for 50 years to lose seats at his first local elections. The shadow cabinet were constantly in the news describing the results as a disappointment and that the party is well on course to lose the next general election. No matter the spin, these would be terrible results at any time, let alone in the context of Tory moves on the NHS, disability benefits, academies, warring over Europe etc...

    Can these facts not be reported without the journalist in question being called every name under the sun?

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    Ha! Same with Kennaugh - it's bizarre.

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    Diane Abbott has been deleting historic tweets supporting Livingstone's election to NEC. How do these people think that sort of activity won't get picked up!?

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    The original tweet isn't where she made that remark. This is far from a 'thinly veiled excuse to bash Labour'. The ones doing the bashing are Labour MPs and Labour peers!

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    Livingstone now claiming the entire thing is an Israeli conspiracy and justifying Shah's comments through Hitler's policies. You couldn't make this stuff up. Livingstone doesn't hold elected office. He is a vile man, why on Earth does Corbyn give him a platform?

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    Yes, but when the General Secretary took that action a few hours after the leader of the Party stated that Shah wouldn't be suspended and a statement was released saying "we're saying she's made remarks that she doesn't agree with". The context is rather important. Whichever way you try to spin this, the Labour party has a massive problem from its roots up to Corbyn (to mention a few - the Oxford University Labour Club, Gerry Downing, Vicky Kirby, Seumas Milne, Corbyn's acquiescence in all of this).

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    If you've read the comments in full then I'd say you were being naive. She refers to Jews as a problem and likens Israeli policies to those of Hitler. The tone is very clear and these comments weren't made a decade ago when she was young and immature - it was 2014. I agree people have said a lot worse, but Labour were very clear that there was a zero tolerance policy being imposed. Corbyn then does nothing and Shah is subsequently suspended by the General Secretary. It's shambolic at best.

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    How could Corbyn have handled this anti-Semitism issue any worse? Labour MP makes vile anti-Semitic comments in 2014, gives weak apology, Corbyn says 'yeah don't worry about it - of course you can keep your job'. It takes a pasting from Cameron in PMQs on the issue for him/Labour to volte-face and suspend her. Why is he so unwilling to take any action? Clearly a huge problem in the party recognised by prominent Labour peers and Jewish leaders and yet it is only when over a barrel that Corbyn actually does anything.

    Other points to note are that the statement on her suspension read that Corbyn agreed that she had been suspended by the general secretary. Why not Corbyn? Why not immediately as McDonnell had promised only a few weeks earlier in the cases where anti-Semitic behavior was uncovered? Comments from Labour like "We're saying she made remarks that she doesn't agree with" are just meaningless and pathetic, and clearly despite Labour's protestations Shah's earlier draft of her apology had been heavily edited to remove any references to the anti-Semitic, racist problem within the Party.

    It's no wonder the Tories are laughing, they are in disarray over Europe, the NHS and other issues, yet it doesn't matter. Corbyn is so ineffectual it feels as if there is no Opposition at all.

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