General election 2015

There's a lot of over-reaction on here. As someone who has no plans to live anywhere, use the roads, get ill or have an accident, send my kid to school, or give a shit about anyone but myself I am confident that everything'll be really good over the next 5 years.

Dead serious, I'm a Milifan

http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/scots-pensioner-bets-30000-tories-5603568

I'm trying to take a positive spin

The genie is well and truly out of the bottle, the SNP landslide, a new Labour leader, a new Lib Dem leader - what's to stop a new 'actually left wing'left wing party forming from the ashes? big big changes ahead - no way Cameron can avoid the pressure he will be under to deliver

Referendum on Europe at which point the thing will be put to bed

And UKIP dead in the water - all those votes and they couldn't convert to seats - wankers

Thank fuck we didn't wake up to a Con x UKIP colab bro....

Referendum on Europe at which point the thing will be put to bed

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I don't fear the referendum result, I look forward to having my presence in this country validated.

Only Harperson herself :)

She's said she will stand down as deputy once they've appointed a new leader.

I can't believe Jim Murphy lost his seat-in addition to every other SLab seat but one-and still neither he nor his mono-track side kick Kezza Dugdale have the decency to stand down.

Even Farage has fallen on his sword but these two think they can tough it out. Part of the problem, not the solution...

I don't really feel much warmth for Salmond as a person but as a politician and an orator I think he's head and shoulders above the rest of anyone in the Commons and he'll be far more effective than Milliband ever was at picking Tory mendacity apart.

I agree but he not the leader of the opposition so his chances are limited. Will be interesting to see him when he has the floor. I think he will need to avoid nationalistic rhetoric or he'll risk it being used as a tool to dismiss his point without having to engage it.

I think Boris will give DC a little space and wage his war against Giddion/May, but really I haven't a clue.

Farage hasn't so much fallen on his sword as embaressingly stumbled and fallen to the ground somewhere near his sword where it lies within easy reach so he can start swinging again.

I suspect if he doesn't cash in on speaking engagements as much as he would like then he'll be back in the fray like a cockroach after a nuclear strike.

This, he can still lay claim to have been backed by one person for every eight who voted. That gives his voice a democratic legitimacy regardless of how much the other seven of us despise what he says.

^^ yes.

Resigning but saying you'll consider running again in september, when you know the only other options are even more mental and racist is hardly that brave.

Tories have 330 seats, just the St Ives (Cornwall) result to come, which should be about 4pm as they don't start the count until all the ballot boxes are there and they're waiting for the ones from the Scilly Isles to be flown to the mainland.

Bah.

I'm trying to take a positive spin

The genie is well and truly out of the bottle, the SNP landslide, a
new Labour leader, a new Lib Dem leader - what's to stop a new
'actually left wing'left wing party forming from the ashes? big big
changes ahead - no way Cameron can avoid the pressure he will be under
to deliver

Referendum on Europe at which point the thing will be put to bed

And UKIP dead in the water - all those votes and they couldn't convert
to seats - wankers

Thank fuck we didn't wake up to a Con x UKIP colab bro....

All of the above, I can only see good things coming of this

Labour need to give up on Scotland and invest all their energy on winning a majority in a rump UK. As the Tories will preside over the dissolution of the Union and a divisive EU referendum that could actually be doable in 5 years time.

faridge given a seat in HOL in 3... 2... 1...

^ That's certainly one way to keep out of the HoP.

The middle class is the greatest invention of the upper class.

Possible reasons Labour lost:

-Squeezed between two nationalisms. Conservatives stoking English fears of SNP influence over Labour won this election in my opinion.

• An unpopular leader who wasn't plausible as PM. I like him, but it has been obvious to everyone throughout that Miliband's personality harmed rather than helped Labour propsects.
  
• The majority of the British people don't want a socialist government. Regrettably, I think this is true. If you want to protect the interests of the disadvantaged, the best you can hope for is a centre left government, a la New Labour.
  
• They lost the argument on the economy and couldn't set the parameters of the debate. They never dispelled the established orthodoxy that Gordon Brown caused the crisis, nor that deficit reduction could happen at a slower pace.
  
• Their policy on immigration and EU bled traditional working class support to UKIP. Unfortunately, they may need to take a more populist stance on immigration control if they want to win support back.
  
• They weren't left wing enough. Anyone who believes this has their head stuck in the sand.
  
  

That is my take on it. Probably not a popular one.

Not wrong either.

Can't argue with that. Shall we close the thread and get on with our lives?

A silver lining, the BNP garnered the grand total of 1,667 votes in this election, compared to over 500,000 in 2010.

The basket case Liberty GB candidate in my constituency, Lewisham West and Penge, got 44 votes.

I did a little fist pump at that as well.

^There must have been, somewhere in Lewisham West for one brief hour on the 7th a Weatherspoons lacking it's most committed mentals.

You leave Spoons alone.

It provides an important part of the mental health and community service provision. Without it, these mad fuckers would be down your local trying to skav peanuts off hipsters.