On-One Inbred SS Disc Balloonbike

For use with a QR I find that a chain tug with a protrusion thats fit into the dropout slot infront of the axle and therefor pulls the axle not just the skewer back works best

Ie like this,

Rather than like this,

I've used images of two rather different types of tug there but (I think) either style is available with and without the extra protrusion.

Hope i've explained that well enough.

Bugger. I said no to the first kind because I didn't think it would suit the QR axle hub. Doesn't the large inner circle give the axle a bit much room to move? Oh well, at least I'll have a bottle opener on the bike.

The hole for the axle on both the tugs I posted pics of should be the same size, 10mm.

Here's another image that I think shows how that first type will do a better job of pulling/holding the axle back,

You should be able to use that^ type even without the skewer fitted but because it sits on the outside of the dropout and the qr axle doesn't extend beyond the dropout the 2nd type I posted won't have and effect on the axle itself.

There'll probably be a recess on the outer face of it (see below) which will help to locate and pull the skewer but I personally find that having the tug act upon the axle is a much better way of doing things.

I wish you'd posted those about 12hrs ago. :S

Thanks. Maybe I'll get a DMR one as well. I can run one on each side for shits and giggles.

White Industries are lovely Halo Clickster are cheaper and still pretty good plus they work fine with a 6-7-8 speed chain. I've run one for years.

Secondly the first step you should've taken to solve the wheel slipping was to replace that god awful open cam QR you have on the rear wheel. Get a decent Shimano (or similar) closed cam QR and 9 times out of 10 you won't need a chain tug/tensioner.

Also as ppl said Shimano > Hayes. Even Deore would be better in my experience.

It's how I bought it and I only had issues post-crash. I will be replacing the skewer because the fucker's bent anyway - I had to hammer it out. With any luck the fuckstains that don't maintain the roads will be paying for its replacement. Other than the obvious Shimano being better, why are closed cams grippier? engages physics nodding mode

Stronger clamping force compared to open cam.

From Sheldon;

Despite the marketing hype associated with these "boutique" skewers, they are actually considerably inferior in functionality to the traditional type. They are often seen under rather prestigious names, as was the one photographed here. (I Photoshopped the logo off, so as not to pick on one particular brand.)

The exposed cam cannot be kept as clean and well-lubricated as the shielded one can.

In addition, the exposed cam has a larger diameter, (typically 16 mm vs. 7 mm for an enclosed cam) so the friction is acting on a longer moment arm (the radius of the cam.)

The result is that the exposed-cam type provides very much less clamping force for a given amount of hand force on the lever.

I've been to the pub so I'm in no state to explain but I read a lot about it after my wheel kept slipping from my Hope open cam QRs on my Salsa with horizontal drops. Switched to Shimano and problem solved (although they look worse). Admittedly its not single speed but my single speed MTB pub bike has a shimano QR too and thats never let me down either and thats been on there for years. I do clamp it up a bit tighter than normal though (like almost difficult to release - but most ppl over tighten QRs anyway so its probably not that tight in the grand scheme).

Ya know, reading that now, I'm sure I've read that about 10 years ago. Guess I've never had much issue with skewers as my track and ss stuff has always been bolted on. I've probably got a spare somewhere but I'll buy a new one anyway.

I been scobbled but in a more explainative (think I made up a word) way. Well done.

Happy St Irish day all.

Best go to LBS, they always have some Shimano skewer lying around due to customer's scrape wheel.

If anyone finds anything better/stronger/cooler than a shimano closed cam I'd be interested. The Paul ones look interesting.

Paul look awesome and would love to have one, but;

Dura Ace is awesome though;

I don't need it urgently, I'm still off the bike. I'll order one.

XTR float my boat

https://fairwheelbikes.com/c/reviews-and-testing/high-end-skewer-review/

This is what most modern QRs look like to me:

Lightweight yes, but they look stupid.

I used to think Shimano enclosed cam qrs were the ugliest bike part you could own but since learning about how much they piss all over the boutique (and not so boutique) open cam designs I have a new found respect for them.

Happily using an XT skewer on the front of my mtb now.

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Ha, nice one.

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Oops! Hello everyone, have been lurking here for a while, and my phone's broken digitizer decided it was finally time for me to post (it has a fault that causes it to generate random touch events). Will introduce self properly soon. Hippy, I like your balloonbike.

Me too. It's quite fun.