Can you help to identify these frames, bikes or parts?

Indeed, those are Nervex Legere lugs on a frame from the 50s/60s.

I have seen a similar fork crown and combination of Nervex Legere today when looking for Freddie Grubb frames. Worth having a look @daveaa?

Can anybody give me some info on this bike? I know its Legnano 6 Volte but I was wondering about what I should be paying for it? Been offered it @ £130?
From what I can tell its completely original (campag valentino rear mech, Legnano seat tube clamp and crank, etc, etc.)
Its dirty as hell but seems to have avoided rust etc so should wash and polish nice?

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I think it's worth it, once cleaned this will be very nice.

I believe @paluPb will be able to tell you if it is good value or not

saarf
i'd say colnago crystal

Did some more research on this one (https://www.dropbox.com/sh/gqere87uabo0dqb/AAD32zaFSiUtDbvQwRFEcd9ga?dl=0) and I think it's a '94 Elegant.
Reasons why I think this: seatstay-lug C-stamp, completely chromed rear triangle, the "complexer" lug-cuttingg, the fact it's pretty light, the serial number starting with a "4" and this '94 catalogue and the fact the seatstay has a smaller diameter near the seatstay-lug. What do you think?

could be!they both are very similar

in the 90's the brand tried to make to most of it's popularity by putting out a large body of different steel frames

You know what I really think? Putting name and date on a Colnago-frame can be nerve-racking... ;-)

Even if it is an Elegant, I'm still not sure what tubing it's made from. In the catalogue they state "Tange Prestige" but the picture shows a Columbus (EL OS?) frameset... Downtube is 33 mm so OS it is but can't find whether Tange used oversized tubing or not.

Does anyone know the model name of this ITM stem? PLEASE

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I'd say a nice stem on a very nice bike.

Looks similar in shape to 700/800 series stems.

@saarf

is that your Crystal? If so, does it has seatstays that have a smaller diameter near the seatstaylug too? I measured those of my '98 Master Extra Light and it doesn't have seatstays with variable diameter. Maybe that is an important difference between this Elegant and the other frames with the "new" seatstaylug.

I only kept the higher end models, so, no, not my crystal

Somebody can help me to identify this Colner? Gipiemme dropouts chrome fork. Which type of Colner? Columbus steel?

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I bought this Pinarello 5 years ago as a complete build. It's labeled "Montello" but has some unique features I couldn't find in any other Montello. Tried getting in touch with Pinarello to see if they could help but they never answered...
It has 1 set of bottle cage bosses instead of 2, aeromount for downtube shifters, and rear derailleur cable is routed inside the chain stay. Any idea?

I'd guess it's a tt/aero model,does it take a 650 front wheel?,looks like decals are original,and a chromovelato type finish,so could be a Montello tt,colnago had a Mexico tt, the only Mexico with crimps inside the ds and non ds chain stays

this model has a lot of similarities with yours (fine piece btw)
internal tt cable guides,apparently one set of bidon cage mounts, center position for dt shifters and internal routing for rd cable
so, off the top of my head, i'd go with it being a pretty rare Montello model

here in the quote bellow EL OS relates to the Technos model, and OS means "oval" rather than "over" sized
"At my favorite local bike shop (Veloce Bicycles) who deals in nothing but bike porn the owner thought my bike was a master extra light. Turns out the Masters Extra Lights are heaver than the EL tube bikes. The first of the tecnos bikes used EL/OS. However a difference between EL-OS (oval) and EL (round) tubes. EL is one of the higher end columbus (see link to old columbus chart) tube sets that you could have used during that time. I'm still trying to figure out exactly what my frame is but I'm thinking early to late 90's euro tecnos. I have been looking for any info I can find on this beast and I have come up with many dead ends in a 6month period. I have seen a picture of one other EL tube nago for some euro country (see link 2). http://www.equusbicycle.com/bike/columbus/columbuschart.htm https://italiaanseracefietsen.wordpress.com/2010/03/11/de-colnago-van-marius/ (& my bike) http://velospace.org/node/30402
That's what I have. I will be keeping an eye on this post and seeing what I can find out. I think we have something rare so I'm keeping mine till I can no longer ride a bike. "
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the Elegant model was at the time the lightest steel frame Colnago made, superseded by the later Technos

confounding this ''wisdom" is this advert, where the Elegant is described as EL OS,

the last tecnos I had my hands on had more of a crimped , Master type tubing rather than ovalised

one way to solve your conundrum would be to ascertain the frame weights of the Crystal and the Elegant, weigh your frame and then you have your answer
the Elegant and Technos models , being lighter steel, were really only meant for lighter riders, eg, Tecnos suits riders <8Okg,
"Great, thanks very much. I am currently building up mine. I am bit worried that the very light EL tubes are not stable enough for my weight (~90kg/~198lbs). Do you experience any issues like this?
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Submitted by knapprobert on 08/23/2014.

I'm in at 190 and the only issue is speed wobble. I need to try other stem sizes to see if it fixes the problem. I wouldn't be afraid of this bike at all very well made."
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i is under 75kg
finally, the above post mentions this
"... recently bought a similar frame but in red. Does anyone know if the Elegant model was also manufactured in red? It's also Columbus EL tubing 60 cm.
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Submitted by knapprobert on 08/26/2013.

Red, Wordperfect purple and Blue."

If this statement is true, your frame cannot be an Elegant.

The elegant advert states decor ranges as "word perfect, red/yellow decor"
if the red/yellow is in combination, your frame saadly is not, if the red/yellow means single color, weigh it, and you could be lucky
I am inclined to believe red/yellow means together, as in the same advert, for the x-light, decor range is "word perfect, red/yellow, team lampre"
look at the 3 x-lights picture, word perfect, red/yellow, and lampre
this is a crystal, in yellow, made from brain

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my final conclusion, given all the above, is that your frame cannot be an Elegant

Thanks @saarf. Really appreciate your contribution. I'm not saying mine IS an Elegant, it's just what I think it is because Elegant has most of the features my frame has too.

Reasons why (I think) mine cannot be a Crystal, is that (above all) the tubes are round, not ovalized, nor crimped. The headtube lugs are the same as the ones used on the Master/Tecnos frames; Crystal didn't have these "complex cutted" lugs on the headtube. The seattube lug is also different from the ones I found on Crystals: all photos of Crystals I've seen show the same seattube lug as used on post '96 Masters, Tecnos ("C" stamp ànd complex cutted lug); mine has the rather simple seattube lug cutting (but does have the "C" stamped in it). Different than most Crystals I have seen, mine has the brake cable running through the top tube. Saying these frames only came in 3 different colours isn't correct: look at the 1994-colour table and you can see the Elegant came in at least 9 colours. There's one here on the forum that comes in another colour:

https://www.lfgss.com/conversations/238814/
But you're right, maybe I'll have to take off all components again and put the frame on some scales.

it's ambiguous , the above crystal example has round tubes, and cut out's in the ht lug,here's another

there is a lot of uncertainty in the two models for sure, i really would try the weight option!

@saarf

Hey! thanks for your thoughts!
Decals and finishing are original for sure, and front wheel is 700c. As you said it's pretty rare.
Shame that Pinarello won't answer emails...

no worries, my pleasure!
is the disraeli gears blog yours?

I know it but I'm not related to it... Just another Cream fan I guess

ahh, ace moniker anyway ! ;0)

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there is a lot of uncertainty in the two models for sure, i really would try the weight option!

So, I checked the frameweight: the “unknown” yellow frame weighs 1875 g (size 57). Compared to my 1998 Master Extra Light (size 58; completely “chem-stripped” and tipping the scales at 1800 g) you can say these two are similar in weight. That is: considering paint weighs between 50 and 100 g (information I got from a professional bike-sprayer). I don’t know how all these numbers compare to how much a Tecnos, Elegant or Crystal weighs, but compared to a 2015 Master (1850 g), this unknown one has practically the same weight.

I’m still not convinced it’s an Elegant but on the other hand: I can’t believe contemporary DT15V steel would be as heavy as/heavier than nineties “low end” steel. Or do I see that wrong?

like I said, you need to ascertain what the elegant weighs in at to make any real accurate conclusions with your frame