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• #16177
Just reread the rules. Not the M25. Spielverderber. Go on Jurek.
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• #16179
Oh I was talking about the old tag, always keen to know why a carpark was interesting, though maybe the previous tagger will enlighten us.
How far outside the M25? Meant to be good weather tomorrow, if you gave a easy enough clue someone might be up for a ride.
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• #16180
Inside the M25. I just saw Clara and I told her I was on a hilly ride with a loose bottom bracket ;-)
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• #16181
Clue: it's between Hogtrough and Sundridge.
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• #16183
Well for anybody else.
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• #16184
A nearly finished high rise.
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• #16185
Yes it is Ben isn't it!
(You are meant to say where the old tag is, it is part of the game. I still have no idea where the hell this is!).
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• #16186
It's Convoys wharf. A 40acre site on the river in Deptford hugely rich in marine history but has been marked for 3000 new homes.
It was first developed in 1513 by Henry VIII to build vessels for the Royal Navy.
The building in the background, the only thing of architectural merit to escape demolition, with the curvy roof is Olympia Warehouse, a unique cast-iron building constructed in the 1840s.
There are plans to build the Restoration warship on the site.
http://www.buildthelenox.org/More about the area here:
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• #16187
The guy in the cycle store in Greenwich had no clue. Then I was going to ask in the lovely The Dog & Bell. But did not dare to take my bike inside. And then it was across the road.
- Anybody with a bit of an interest in what you gave as a clue would have found that^ out himself.
- Anybody with a bit of an interest in what you gave as a clue would have found that^ out himself.
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• #16188
Where else do London developers come from?
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• #16189
Looks like I'm beaten to it.
Twice.
I'd just written almost word for word 7ven's post above.
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• #16190
Yours was much better written.
Where's this water feature?
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• #16191
It's a frieze alongside what was the towpath of the Croydon canal, which ran from its connection to the Surrey Canal, not so far from your Convoys Wharf tag. It ran south through Brockley (Brockley Barge is a pub so-named because of the canal connection) through Forest Hill - which is where the above image was taken - opposite the train station, below The Hob, you can still see a short stretch of cobbles where the pavement ramps up - almost certainly part of the towpath. A couple of water-filled sections remain to this day, one in Dacres Wood Nature Reserve in Dacres Road, Forest Hill. The other is a stretch of ornamental water in Betts Park in Anerley. Doubtless the Jolly Sailor and The Ship pub in South Norwood is so named because of its close proximity to where the canal ran. Until the late 70's it was possible to spot sections of the towpath from a train as it pulled in to West Croydon station, where the canal terminated. Much of the land reclaimed after the canal was drained was used for the construction of the railway which runs along there today.
A contemporary map showing the route of the canal can be found here:
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• #16192
Very interesting. Did not know this. Thanks!
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• #16193
Just wait till someone tags a relic of the old pneumatic railway that ran along the route of the canal, that will bring out the SE London local history crew in force
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• #16194
I love it when BTOB comes to my neighbourhood and I learn something new!
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• #16195
Excellent, this is what BToB is about. I didn't know this had existed.
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• #16197
Anybody with a bit of an interest in what you gave as a clue would have found that^ out himself.
Or asked about it in a bike shop then stumbled across it?! (I presumed googling Lenox wouldn't provide the answer but actually it did a few links down). You should link to the Strava of that tag by the way, I don't know what the furthest anyone has ridden is to get a tag but that must be up there.
Thanks for the info @7VEN - I'd never heard of it. I'd like to think it'll be a sympathetic development which preserves the history of the site, but unfortunately those opposing it are probably right to do so.
So which is the current tag, the lane, the traffic lights or either? It's not entirely clear...
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• #16198
You should apply for a job in the field like most of the armchair historians on here ;)
The day started with me disboarding the train mistaking Chislehurst for Chelsfield. Followed by the Garmin recognising Cutty Sark for navigation from Green Street Green. Greenwich/Deptford navigation by where the place should be fromThames U.
From 15 December 1900 there was tramway access to the Foreign Cattle market....
did it for me . . . development should be another abomination of course.
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• #16199
This building
http://goo.gl/maps/xfCB9
Just off the South Circ, is a lock keeper's cottage. Adjacent to one of 28 locks, in two flights between Surrey Commercial Docks (as it was known) and Croydon.
Other lock keeper's cottages are available.
I can't help but imagine that the massive, sign written retaining wall in Shardeloes Road is canal related.
I should, in fairness, point out that it was Ludd who made me aware of the chunk of canal which remains in Dacres Wood Nature Reserve when, on one occasion, we were returning with Ludd the Youngest, from Mother's, having scored a steampunk typewriter.
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• #16200
That Shardeloes Road bit of "poetry" was written by a leading light in the Letter Box Study Group. It was as a result of being taken on a bike ride in Chipstead by his elder brother to see a rare Edward VIII letter box than he got hooked on that particularly obscure field of history. I think this emerged as we were discussing the Edward VIII coronation mug that I bought in a cafe in Forest Hill a while ago.
Where is this? What's so cool about it?