Essential winter clothing?

Does anyone make good windproof Tights/Bibs? Especially around the crotch area. Idealy i'd like padless tights

Pearl Isumi Amfib, but they're pretty heavy duty and proper water resistant, so maybe overkill for what you want?

I have a pair of dhb vaeon Zero bib tights that are extremly good at blocking the cold. They have windproof panels over the knees and outer things and fleecy lining everywhere. Very nice. Have a pad though which I did not get on with at all, so I removed it and wear it with my summer bibs.

I have a pair of those which see virtually no use due to the pad. I'd never thought to remove it.

Was it a simple operation?

Yeah someone from either this thread or another suggested it. It's simple enough but takes a bit of time, I did it over a few sittings but I estimate it took an hour total. Just cut away at the threads from the inside using a stanley knife. It all comes apart eventually, just need to take care to not slice up the shorts by accident.

The pad is just all wrong, or its positioned incorrectly. Glad it's not just me.

Has anyone tried this?

http://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B0020HRRA2

Looks good for cycling, when the light is low and over some cold weather gear. £22 as well...

I picked up a Sportful Hot Pack gilet for better visibility on winter training rides. If you can find one on sale, they're great.

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No, but I'm pretty sure Prendas sell them for less than that.

Yeah.

I returned mine as it's just way too loose fitting for my liking.

I use one of these for riding in low light if I'm dressed a bit ninja.

It was @dan afaik

guys. the lights. you can put lights on your bike. nobody needs to wear that stuff for any reason.

It's illegal to ride in France without those at night time.

Plus, gilet are great windbreaker.

You don't drive do you.

It's illegal to ride in France without those at night time.

well that's unfortunate.

You don't drive do you.

yes i do actually. also it's darker in northern europe during winter time so pretty sure i know what i'm talking about visibility needs wise.

one appreciates maybe a strong fibre flare at the back and a proper light at the front more than a construction mans vest.

Maybe your glowstick and dark are very good but your off your tits if you think some visible clothing isn't the easiest way to get seen in low light on fast roads.

Some fluro works well in dim, nondirect light like dawn or dusk on overcast days, exactly when your lights aren't so effective.

no need to get all fired up

nobody rides in low lights on fast roads here during winter time. for example today it's been abt-8 to -10°c. you'll more probably get killed by falling due to ice and freeze to death unconscious rather than get hit by a car.
no, we ride during day light in the north.

To be fair, @FFF is quite right that a decent set of light does make a big difference, however, additional reflective can be helpful even though it's not necessary, the danger is simply the false sense of security that other have fallen into the trap of wearing reflective.

TBH, I can't see any difference in driver's behaviour when I have my gilet on.

Fascinating. Forgive me if I completely ignore your advice on visibility on UK roads though!

On twisty country roads unfortunately a driver's reaction time is an issue sometimes. If they see you better, further up the road it's no bad thing.

I think fluro overshoes are great for this. That movement shouts cyclist and they're seen from all angles.

I rode quite a lot at night without one. Never any issue.

Though not sure if I saw any gendarmes in the wild!

Though not sure if I saw any gendarmes in the wild!

Probably on pair with the rural police fining people riding bike on pavement - sweet fuck all.

Just planning my return to the roads and want to avoid any more unfortunate accidents. Haven't had a big one for a few years, but better safe than sorry etc. Will get a new Exposure front light for touring / commuting when I have the spare £, but for the moment a high-vis jacket is going to be a good idea.

Been riding the busses the past few months, watching cyclists commuting and at night when it's dark, and a fluro jacket makes a massive difference, even without lights. Can hardly see someone in dark colours.

The Sportful Hot Pack looks like a decent option, cheers TTM.

If you don't need the insulation, the Reflex version has a bunch of 3M reflective prints on it.

Proviz 360 stuff seems nice but a bit pricy

I got bought this for Christmas:
http://www.karrimor.com/karrimor-x-lite-reflective-jacket-mens-452004

Much cheaper than Proviz. Not very breathable, but I've only been wearing it on very early morning ride where I want to wear EVERYTHING so doesn't really affect me.