hammock touring

Before I went, I read lots, and the general idea I got was that you want a bit of sag, so that you can lay 'diagonally' in it, as this makes you sleep flatter?
That one was mine^^, and I had already taken the tarp down and slackened it before I thought about taking a picture!
It took a while to set up, as I tied it first (pissed and in the dark!) to a dead tree.... Couldn't work out why my arse kept hitting the floor.... Turns out the tree was about to fall on me...

Absolutely interested in seeing some pictures of this!

i've had some really comfy nights over the years in the hammock, when its blowing and raining but you're under a small tarp or the tarp is pitched high you can get some spray from the bottom -which can turn to a lot of spray and more.. not so nice ,less so if theres an underquilt and its raining the next days
but just pitching the wind side lower or using a poncho or similar item tied below the hammock eliminates that
big tarps are really nice in bad wheather though :D

on sag , it seems like many people using DD hammocks and especially the older smaller ones tend to hang quite tight and somehow be okay with it but i'd totally agree on having a good amount of sag and lying diagonal, feel like it makes a big difference!

one downside i ran into was being so comfortable i would not getup with sunrise but most of the time hang in a bit haha - especially on chilly mornings
PS:hello lfgss!

I just bought a DD superlight. Will probably get the tarp and net next week, too. Planning to take it along with me when I tour as a warm weather alternative sleeping system if I fancy it. It's a little extravagant to have a hammock + a tent but it is pretty light!

Is that webbing straight though to the hammock? Looks a bit fiddly to adjust! Have you seen those whoopie sling things? I'm intrigued by them.

i'm not stedlocks but afaik it goes through a channel sewn in the end of the hammock and is gathered there ,so going through it the short way and not along the hem on the long side (wouldnt make much sense either)

i havent use whoopies but they are easy enough to make yourself !
i'm pretty sure i prefer UCR.style suspension though , less overall rope and more adjustability
you have a short length of rope attached to your hammock (knotted or bale/cow hitched) through this you bury another longer one
so you dont have the unneeded doubling of rope and the adjustable part is right at the hammock, i have an eye spliced into the far end of the long rope that i then clip into a treehugger

as with the whoopies you need to milk the buried part before you put weight on and make sure it doesnt get pushed around..
tie an elastic around the end of the bury or splice another eye into the loose end of the bit attached to the hammock and prussik it to the long bit with some thin accessory / kite line/small-stuff (make sure after milking that this is not actually tight but just in a position where it would catch the end of the bury if it slipped, so you dont hang on the prussik but on the bury)
i can try to illustrate it if i'm not clear :P

It's dead easy to just use the line it comes with, to be fair. You pass it around the back of the upright, back to the front, then tie a big bow... This doesn't slip, and is easy to break in the morning after loading. I get a bit knot-lexic too, so lots of differing rigs can mess me up!

upside of whoopies or UCR or even continuous line is it packs smaller and is lighter
the problem with the amsteel or other dyneema lines is there's a bunch of knots you shouldnt use on them and most friction hitches, sliding knots/.. dont work because it's too slippery

isnt the webbing you have super stretchy? i got some of it with a tarp and was really astounded to see they seem to be using it on their hammocks !..

No, not stretchy at all.... It probably has a bit of boing in it, but nothing like dynamic rope.... Probably about 2%?
After you've hung it, have a good sit in the middle to get any stretch out, then re-tension if needed... Then you're good to go. Unless you've inadvertently hung it on a 45foot dead tree, in which case you'll need to sort it out before it gets you on the head. :0)
There are probably loads of configurations that are better, but I've not found the standard stuff to be an issue. It's way better than a sleeping mat and bivvy though!

Hammock came today. I'm not aware how light hammocks should be, but its light. Like a pac mac. The snakeskin I bought with it weighs nearly as much as the hammock itself! I'd be happy to carry this little thing around just in case I fancied the weather overnight or as a way of resting outside of the tent.

Will find somewhere to set it up and check it tomorrow.

In other news, eyeing the continuous ridgeline from dutch (with the wasp and softshackles on it) to go with the DD superlight tarp. Some little Ti pegs and a bit of bungee + cord
and I should have a great little shelter system, to put up quickly if it rained at camp and I wanted to do something outside.

i have whoopee slings and some home-made tree straps - excellent solution, looking forward to some warmer weather!

We need a forum sub24O.....who's in?

http://www.tentsile.com/products/stingray-tree-tent

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Well done.
It's not light but it sleeps three and looks like fun.

First I thought it might be fun for festivals or something. But tbh you're probably all going to roll together, and every time one of you moves, everyone moves.

And you can guarantee that you'll come back to camp and some drunk guy will be trying to use it as a trampoline.

I saw this online, so called into the local store but they didn't have any. But they ordered one to be delivered to me. Bank holiday discount is on at the moment, so £11.99 😁

An hour ago, there's 19 left.

https://www.mountainwarehouse.com/lightweight-hammock-p16386.aspx/green/

Quite a bit too short for most people to comfortably sleep in.

Yeah i had one for my missus, it was no good for me at 6'1"

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Thanks @Jaaaaamie @tilover

145 x 220cm may be quite snug 😣

I'm attempting to pack my bikepacking bags but hammocking takes up a lot more space in my bags Vs my tent. I've a
DD frontline
DD tarp
Cheap underquilt
Insulated Mat
Sleeping bag

Trying to pack into ortlieb bar bags and saddle pack. Got a frame bag but it's not very big so use it for stove, pan and fuel and packable rain jacket.

Is the DD not really suitable for bikepacking or am I doing something wrong?

How do you pack?

I find it is about the same size as a tent but the experience is nicer, get a more expensive tarp that packs down smaller but that doesn't have a huge impact

Yes the DD tarp is pretty big. Think I'll make a new hammock too with some lightweight ripstop.

Taken your advice and the tarp is in the classifieds if anyone is in the market. Sorry if this isn't allowed in this thread

I've now had a few afternoon camps out with my DIY hammock, hopefully I'll manage a couple of days sometime soon.
Just tried the 3/4 length under quilt which was a £12 Tesco 250 rectangular sleeping bag yesterday morning.

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