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I know we are going round in circles Nic
I genuinely think this discussion has been positive and not circular. My position has shifted somewhat since @cyclelove threw the gauntlet down.
I am asking this because, being pragmatic, and considering the massive cost of building a segregated lane on A10 -which isn't the busiest of A roads especially between Dalston and Shoreditch, a decent quietway would enable people to travel to and from hackney to the centre)
Fair point, but I have rarely if ever used the A10, I don't know enough about it's utility to make a sensible contribution. Sorry if that sounds evasive but I'm a westerner. I can say that if the road is similar to the A5 through Maida Vale and Kilburn then I would definitely support segregated lanes.
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Shifted? Can you elaborate?
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It's not like the A5 at all. In fact the section between Dalston and Shoreditch has pretty low traffic density even at rush hour, space for drivers has been taken away, pavements widened, the section in Dalston opposite Ridley road Market has been treated to create a sense of 'place' where people shop, crossing from the station to the market, driver priority has been blurred and even the road surface indicates pedestrian priority here. Drivers generally move through carefully because of a lot of pedestrian activity on the road.
I suppose, since you are expressing a view on this issue you really ought to have a look. The treatment there may be transferrable to parts of the A5, especially if there is a quiteway and especially if there is a strong function of 'place to hang out' rather than transit
skydancer
But Hackney LCC do not refuse to use segregation. Their understanding of where it's needed is more nuanced
I know we are going round in circles Nic, but do you think that where there is a quietway, a direct parallel route like the one parallel with the A10, then there also needs to be a segregated route on the A10?