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  • I've not read through the whole thread, but I've thought this recently too Tom - sweetened tea would be brilliant on long winter rides.

    I never drink enough when it's really cold like this as the idea of slurping down something that's been half frozen having been out in the cold for 3-4 hours isn't appealing. Thus i end rides pretty dehydrated.

    I read a thing about Garmin Sharp's (or whatever they're called now) winter training, and they do hand them up bidons with warm tea in, but i imagine riders bosh that down in about 20 mins. I really think that you're not gonna get any bottle that will keep something hot for 3-4 hours if it's directly exposed to really low temperatures. For example, even the thermos flask i've got for non- riding use only keeps things warm for about two hours, and that's when it's been stashed away in a relatively windproof bag.

    My uninformed opinion would be, if you'er dead set on trying it, get one of those podium chill thermos bidons and drink the contents very early in the ride

  • I looked at those podium chill bottles, but I can't imagine heat would stay in for even an hour.

    Anyway, I've ordered a proper Thermos branded flask that holds 0.8L and a cool looking quick release bottle cage to hold it. I'm also looking for a neoprene sleeve for the flask too for extra insulation. If all of that fails I'll call Garmin and demand one of their cars follows me all winter, handing me hot, sweet tea on demand. And mince pies.

  • I think they'll be up for it. Wegelius is always a bit of a 'forward thinker'. Just promise you'll give him a few TTM trademark flat whites and crumpets with marmalade after the ride

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