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12 degrees my frigid butt! Wearing the early winter ones in anything above 5c would be daft. They retain decent heat. If you are especially cold. Get them a size larger so you have enough space to trap air in there.
@Mechamorgan beat me to it. slap a liner in there and my blood happily reached all extremities! As for rain. Let it fall! So long as my hard earned body heat stays where it is!
Chak
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Where did you get non lobster version? The early winter glove looks superb but we're getting into colder weather that's a bit too love for the suggested temperature range.